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i dont know if its a stupid question or not, but in the 5th book Serious Black died, but couldnt they have found a way of getting hold of a time-turner and save him just as they did in the 3rd book? i mean, it was a cosiderable salution.

2006-10-24 03:54:04 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Books & Authors

yeah, but they could have stopped it b4 he fell through that veil.

2006-10-24 03:59:04 · update #1

15 answers

no because they all broke

2006-10-26 03:46:52 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is not a stupid question, to wonder if the use of a time-turner could save Sirius Black. Unfortunately, it isn't possible though. Hermione handed the time-turner that McGonagall got for her at the end of the third year when she dropped Divination and Muggle Studies. It was also stated that the Ministry of Magic's store of time-turners was destroyed in the fifth book. I think that the concept of the time-turners was a complicated plot device that J.K. Rowling will not return to.

Sirius Black was a character that was always reckless and so I think it was clear from the beginning that he was likely to be killed sooner or later. Also, as he had come to love Harry so much, he would do anything to help him as long as he was able to. If he wasn't killed he would do what he could to protect him and so it was necessary to kill him off. Without Sirius and Dumbledore, Harry will go into Book 7 an adult (also without the protection his mother gave him with her sacrifice) that will face Voldemort on his own - as the prophesy and Dumbledore stated that he must.

In Book 3, the time-turner allowed Sirius to be saved before the Dementors successfully administered the Kiss. Even if a time-turner was available after Sirius fell through the veil, I doubt he could be restored to life. J.K. Rowling has said characters do not come back from the dead in her stories. Some characters that were *believed* to be dead have come back, such as Voldemort and Peter Pettigrew, but they never actually died, which is different.

2006-10-24 12:52:58 · answer #2 · answered by Kami 6 · 0 0

In J.K. Rowling's world, everything is like a gigantic four-demensional pretzel. When you use the time-stopper, everything is happening all at once; you can't go back and alter something that people saw happen. The most important rule of time-traveling is you mustn't be seen by anyone, especially the 'you' of the time. If no one knew Sirius was going to fall into the veil, and it happened too fast to be stopped in the real world, then altering time wouldn't help. If someone did try and save him, it couldn't be anyone already involved in the battle. Harry and a number of others saw it happen, and thus no one can stop it now. And since Rowling claimed all the time-stoppers were smashed, it would be completely impossible anyway.
But what everyone seems to be skipping over is that Rowling needed the drama. Otherwise nothing really would have happened at the end. I am really displeased with the way she chose to get rid of Sirius. This courageous man simply falls through a veil and is never seen again. But think about the plotline if she had chosen not to kill Sirius. The whole battle inside the Ministry would seem lame, because maybe a few of the Order were injured, but everyone would have just walked away from it, and people would be mad at her for not being realistic. Killing off characters is one way of holding an audience's interest. I don't exactly agree with her method, but it is her story, and she can do what she wishes. Sometimes to the dismay of her readers...

2006-10-24 14:09:38 · answer #3 · answered by Teresa 5 · 2 0

Let's assume that would have worked. What about the ethical and practical issues that arise from it? The Order of the Phoenix is a vigilante organization, not officially recognized by the Ministry of Magic. To them Sirius Black was just another guy and an escaped convict to boot. If he was granted another shot at living, everyone who faced death would deserve the same. Nobody would pass.
Beyond that, you can't really change time (I think Dumbledore brought this up). In Book 3, you can't really be sure that what happened the 1st time was different from what happened the 2nd time. All we know is that there was a chopping sound and Hagrid howled. He did the same thing after the time-turner was used.
Besides, as a literary device, Harry has to face things on his own in the end. It makes the story more exciting. Look at it this way, if what you're suggesting is possible, why don't they just go way back and waste Voldemort? Why don't they build an indestructible robot and send it back in time to kill Voldemort's mom (Sarah Connor?) before he's even born? If they did that, there'd be no story and J.K. Rowling would still be super-poor.

2006-10-24 04:12:41 · answer #4 · answered by czimme3 4 · 0 0

In the third book, no one died, so when they returned in time, they only saved Sirius and the animal from death, not bring them back to life.

In the fifth book, Sirius Black really died (evidences: Harry inherited his belongings including the house-elf, which can not happened unless the original owner is dead). And the dead people can not be back alive again. Once a person die, that's it. It's very painful, but that's it. And Dumbledore have said that in the novels.

2006-10-25 08:14:11 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

read the sixth book, when hagrid is upset that the trio is no longer taking his class, hagri is consoled by the fact that they have enough classes already and even if they had applied for time turners they might not have gotten one, then Hermione tells him that the destroyed all the time turners while fighting voldemort in the ministry

2006-10-24 04:06:12 · answer #6 · answered by jumper 2 · 0 0

In book three they showed you the seriousness of meddling with time, their were too many witnesses in book five. Not to mention that in book three they were saving an innocent man from a decision others made, where as in book five Black made his own decision knowing what the outcome may be.

2006-10-24 03:58:21 · answer #7 · answered by novelwyrm 3 · 0 0

All of the time turners were destroyed before he fell in.

2006-10-24 08:57:44 · answer #8 · answered by Jeremy© ® ™ 5 · 0 0

they destroyed all the time turners when they were in another room. And how were they to know that was going to happen, the Hermione had in a previous book they also destroyed

2006-10-24 04:03:15 · answer #9 · answered by Kitikat 6 · 2 0

In book 3, when they used the time-turner, he wasn't dead YET. Maybe after a peson dies, even if you go back in time, they won't
be there.

2006-10-26 14:27:42 · answer #10 · answered by Rabbit 1 · 0 0

Yeah, they can't, all the time-turners were destroyed.

2006-10-24 05:09:04 · answer #11 · answered by Dawn Treader 5 · 0 0

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