help with horse vetting?

Question

I have a horse on trial and he failed the vetting. When I told the owner the news she told me that she heard that even a young healthy horse will come up limping after a flexion test. does anyone know about this?

Answer 1

I would ask the seller to pay for a set of xrays, if she is confident the horse is sound she should have no problem... Just remember there are plenty of sound horses for sale, be careful of this one! By the way was the horse lame up front or behind? Also remember that xrays wont show soft tissue damage, lilke a pulled suspensory or a tendon. Those take months to heal...

Answer 2

A young healthy horse will not come up limping after a felxion test unless there is something wrong with the horse.
My horse passed one and he is 16 years old and an ex-racer.I had him vetted before purchase years ago as he had ankles and been pin fired on one front leg.I wanted to be sure he was sound for what I needed him to do. He was and passed fine.
I would be very careful of this horse. maybe some x-rays are in order.

Answer 3

Vetting a Horse
There is a national protocol set out by the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons in conjunction with the British Veterinary Association and endorsed by the British Equine Veterinary Association and the Veterinary Defence Society. This comprises of a ‘five stage vetting’:

A preliminary, stable examination.

In hand examination including trot up, turning and backing.

Ridden exercise period of approximately 20 minutes at all paces, where possible, so that the horse has performed strenuous exercise.

A rest period to allow the horse to settle and time used to further the examination and provide identification documentation.

A final, in hand trot up and foot examination.

Before purchasing a horse or pony we would strongly recommend that you consider asking your veterinary surgeon to perform the above, five stage vetting, as it provides a sound protocol to provide you, the purchaser with information regarding the animals health and condition and advice on the suitability, as seen on the day of examination, for purchase, for the equine discipline that you wish to pursue.

Protocol the Prospective Purchaser should follow:

The examination can only be done on behalf of the PURCHASER; not the vendor.

We would recommend that the prospective purchaser has examined and ridden the horse / pony, fully prior to arranging the ‘vetting’. Past experience suggests that the horse should be ridden under the conditions likely to be experienced after purchase (e.g. if the purchaser wishes to show jump, make sure that the horse can jump the heights required and over a course of jumps which might be found under competition conditions) and ideally away from the home environment. In Guernsey where road hacking and boxing are essential make sure that the horse is happy to box, go past tractors, motor bikes etc..

Discuss vices (see below) with the vendor and seek a written warranty.

Ask the vendor about any past medical history.

Ask to speak to the farrier to ascertain if there have been any farriery problems.

Ensure that the horse has a good set of shoes and has well trimmed feet. Do NOT have new shoes put on the horse in the 48 hours prior to the ‘vetting’

Speak to the vet, in person, to discuss what you want the horse to be able to do.

If you have any particular concerns tell the vet about them over the telephone prior to the date of examination.

If the vet has any prior knowledge which may make him or her believe that they may fail the horse at the time of the ‘vetting’ then they should refuse to undertake the vetting.

Ensure that the horse is in a stable with a clean bed and clean hooves for at least 1 hour prior to the ‘vetting’. It is preferable, but not essential that it is the horses normal stable. Present the horse with a head collar and rope.

Ensure that there is a suitable trotting area (in hand) and an area where strenuous exercise (at least a prolonged, hard , canter) can be performed.

Have tack at hand for the ridden exercise regime.

The purchaser should be present if possible and ideally they or their agent, rather than the vendor will ride the horse.

A blood test will be taken. The vendor should sign a consent form at the time of the vetting for the blood test.

The purchaser will be provided with a certificate for the vetting which will identify the animal and state the suitability or not of the horse for the required usage and also state the reasons for this decision. We would advise that the purchaser does not exchange any monies or guarantees of purchase until they have received this certificate.

Warranty: If purchasers wish to obtain a warranty covering such matters as height, freedom from vices, temperament, the non-administration of drugs prior to examination or the animal’s existing performance as a hunter, show-jumper, riding pony, eventer, etc…, they are advised to seek such a warranty in writing from the vendor, as these are matters between vendor and purchaser and are not the responsibility of the veterinary surgeon. The certification does not cover an examination for pregnancy.

Opinion:The opinion expressed at the time of the vetting is based solely on the clinical examination set out above and is given subject to the qualification that the said animal may be subject to some previously administered drug or medicament intended to or having the effect of masking or concealing some disease, injury or physical abnormality which might otherwise be clinically discovered at some future date. At the time of ‘vetting’ we take a routine blood sample which is stored at a laboratory in Newmarket for 6 months post sampling. This sample can be tested immediately after the ’vetting’ for drugs such as phenylbutazone if you so wish or at any time whilst in storage. The price for this additional service is usually about £100. Please obtain a quote.

Answer 4

Some horses are going to be less flexible than others if they have not been worked. But, young horses, worked or not, should not be failing a flex test. A friend of mine recently purchased a 5 yr. Appendix QH gelding. He got a 3 on his flex test but passed everything else. Thinking that is could be helped with joint meds, she bought him. 3 months he pulls up dead lame with cartilage damage, and a stifle that was ripped apart. It's Buyer Beware.

Answer 5

Not at all true. Your horse is a gimp and the woman needs to take him back. Good job for getting a pre-purchase exam!!

Answer 6

I am not sure but I toaly think that a young healthy horse will fail I have seen it.

Answer 7

no