Did Triumph and Bsa make a 250cc tribsa?

Answer 1

No they were home brewed. I built a 650cc Triton in 1966!

Answer 2

No
A Tribsa is a BSA engine in a Triumph frame or vice versa, the 250 would be a Triumph Tigress 250 twin scooter engine in a BSA Bantam frame . The nearest official approach to a trbsa was the 200 Bantam Cub a 200 cc Triumph Tiger Cub engine in a lightly modified BSA Bantam frame.
There is a reference to the 250 BSA Barracuda/Starfre and to the 250 Triumph Trophy, these were just badge engineered BSA C15 clones, very highly tuned, very unreliable, very fast for a pre 1970 250, 100 jmph was easily achieveable, Jmph (Jap miles per hour) was about 25% more than Smiths speedometer Miles per hour. my C25 Barracuda was as fast as the Suzuki GSX 250 of the 1980s, but it was exhaust critical and an exhaust from Armours of Bournemouth crippled it, but a 1971 Norton Commando exhaust put back the speed and kept the noise down, I still have it in bits and 3 pistons it holed, side away from plug through the ring lands, and some rods it broke and bent, this was a road bike not race, I may even rebuild it one day.
My C25 Barracuda was just like the TXm45s picture of a B25 Starfire, except mine was orange. Most Starfires had a different full width front hub with a TLS brake which worked and didn't go oval the first time it was used hard. Mine ended up with 1972 8" conical hub and forks adapted to fit.

Answer 3

Bsa Barracuda

Answer 4

The T25 and C25 were same bike with different badges. (Starfire. Barracuda motor)
Made somewhere around 1972.
Basically a BSA 250 badged for US market, as Triumph was a better know name in US
Parts are completely interchangable so theres a good posiblity its been repaired with what was available

Answer 5

Yes and No,,sorta

A Triumph 250 Trophy was a BSA B25 Starfire.

They had different trim and a few small details,,but were SAME bike.

Most people in the USA have never,,or RARELY seen either.
Fewer have ridden one,,
Fewer YET have spent any length of time on either.
And as far the BSA Version,,,multiply all the above by,,a Bunch.
I know BSA Dealers that never had a B25,,or at least specific year models.

The 250 singles were generally ridiculed,if not despised.
Particularly the Triumphs.
They were simply "A Joke" sitting amidst new Bonnevilles.

At my 1st Triumph Shop,,we had Honda,Suzuki,and Triumph

A 250 Trophy Triumph
A Suzuki X-6 Scrambler
A Honda CL-72 250,or CL-77 305(thru '67),,
or CL-350('68 on)

Can You Imagine those 3 250 in a line on the Showroom Floor?
The Japs just ,,,Dominated the 250 Trophy.

Service department hated them.
I saw basically "new" ones sit in the shop unattended to for MONTHS,,,or dismantled for Months,,
Or,,never picked up by their owners.
I saw Months turn into Years on quite a few.

As unbeleiveable as that seems,,it's True

They were considered ODDBALLS among Triumphs,,and Oddballs among their Size Class,and Oddballs at their Price Range.

Even 160~175 Hondas "did everything better",,for lots cheaper.

We wouldn't even rob parts off of them!
(Salvage/part-out from ones which were assimilated by the shop)
1st,,there was never any market for the parts,
"New-ish" bikes soon became Filthy and at "bottom of the pile",,or cram-packed into the darkest corners.

I seen Many "New" Dunlop K70 Tires DRY ROT after years of just sitting on 250's.
When we COULDA got $5~10 for them.
Back when Gasoline was 35cents/gal,,
Cigarettes was 40~50 cents,,BEER was $1/sixpack
And a highschool kid could not hardly TRY and spend $10 on a date.
$10 was BIG BUCKS,,,LOL

The sad part is,,as much of a Absolute/Obsolete MISFIT as they were....
They were Attractive Looking Bikes,,,Same as ANY Triumph,,except for the "dissapointing look" of the engine.

They were "BIG" in physical size compared to the Jap Bike.
VERY Comfortable and pleasant to ride.
All dimensions and control layout,,seat-to-pegs,,GREAT Handlebars,,,all exceptionally nice.

They Vibrated,,but had no "Buzz".
Even their sound wasn't too bad.

EZ to start when in tune,,great on gas,,,and Low but adequate power.

I would enjoy having one these days,,after 35 years of getting my head mostly outa my @ZZ.
I'm honest to goodness Ashamed of myself for not judging them on their own,unique merits in their day.

They're no more quirky than any other Brit Bike,,and actually rather solid.
Really sorta Cool.

If I had my choice TODAY of a Suzuki X6,,CL72 honda,,or 250 Triumph,,,I wouldn't think twice .
I'd take the Triumph.

The 2 Japs have been "superceded" Countless times at being what they were.
There would be NO CHARM,No Thrill riding another late 60's/early 70's rice burnin' 250 for me.

The 250 Triumph WAS in a class all it's own,,,and it still is,,far as I'm concerned.
I had to grow Up to be able to appreciate the weird things for what they were.
The lil' Triumph was a Classic the day they built it,,kinda like a Zippo Lighter.

The Japs had them beat 100X in every way,,but were/are about as "Classic" as a Bic Disposable.
The Bic may be BETTER in almost every way than a leaky ol' zippo,,,but there just aint anything endearing about them.

The Triumphs,,all the old British Bikes,,they had Intangible qualities that could not be listed on a Spec Sheet.

Anyway,,,
Yep,Yes Indeed,,250 Triumph Was actually a 250 BSA,,,far as I recall


Here's some pics of an "old style" B25,,a "new style" B25 and a Trophy 250 .

Click to zoom in on Old Engine,,and compare to the Triumph's.
Compare the Detail of the Newer B25 to the Triumph,,forks,brakes,etc.

Keep in mind when comparing details the T-250 is a "scrambler" and the B25 is a Roadster.
But look at centerline of wheel axles to shift shaft,for example---same frame,,same motor,same suspension & wheels

http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9034/

http://www.geocities.com/saana29/BSA1.html

http://www.britcycle.com/Bikes/JBakker001.htm

There's better pics out there somewhere online,I'm sure

I don't know if they're what You'd consider to be a "tribsa",,but they were definitely Same Basic Bike towards the last few years of their existence.

B25 History goes back much further in history,,so the Triumph was "made from a BSA",,rather than Vice Versa

Answer 6

No it was home biult by putting Triumph engine in a B.S.A frame, using engine plates .

Answer 7

No - all Tribsas, Norvins, Tritons, etc, were built by the owners or shops, not by the factory.

Answer 8

If you go to site below thers a pic of one ..... scroll half way down page

http://www.brmc.co.uk/secondh.htm

Answer 9

No.The companies did not make them.

Answer 10

No.