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just asking ......got into some deep thoughts

2006-10-23 01:01:10 · 3 answers · asked by gost 1 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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I don't understand your question, but I will try this: What is the difference between the world of concepts and the world itself? My answer would be that there is no world in itself that stands apart (ontologically) from concepts. The world of concepts (mind/experience) is the world itself as it experiences itself. The world perceives itself. When it does this conceptually, it always perceives itself as "other". All objects of experience are always turned into an "other" in some way – even when a person tries to perceive herself, she objectifies herself. This is essentially what consciousness does; it is the world's way of perceiving parts of itself, and in so doing it always distances itself from the part it is perceiving. When I reflect upon my thoughts, I turn my thoughts into objects of perception, thus I have made them "other" in this sense. But prior to reflection there is a pre-reflective awareness. This is not awareness "of" any object or set of objects, but rather, it is simply our ability to get along in the world. This is a pre-conscious sort of Being in which we simply do things without reflecting upon what we are doing. Zen masters talk about this as the "no-mind," Heidegger refers to it as the sort of pre-conscious understanding that serves as our entry into the hermeneutic circle. Existentialists call it pre-reflective awareness – an awareness in which we don't experience a cat AS a cat, but rather, simply experience a cat. Presumably this is the sort of sentient, non-conceptual awareness that many animals have, and which people have as well, but people get confused because we are in the habit of equating knowledge with conceptualization, so to understand something we immediately reflect upon it, but in so doing we turn it into an "other" – we make it into an object of our awareness, rather than simply being aware of it non-conceptually.

The world is the web of meanings and relationships that are "there" before we reflect upon them. Conceptual consciousness is not strictly just an illusion. Through our conceptual faculties the world opens up to Itself – It presents Itself to Itself and thus understands Itself in a way that it otherwise never could. The ILLUSION kicks in when the conceptual overpowers the pre-conceptual to such an extent that we no longer recognize the pre-conceptual as the true source of our reality. We think that the cat AS A CAT is the ultimately "real", and forget that the "AS" objectifies that which is fundamentally NOT an object. Objectification is a mode of understanding that is essential for a full understand of the world, but objectification is NOT, in itself, the fullness of understanding. A full understanding is a composite of conceptual and pre-conceptual understanding. Full understanding is difficult – often seen as elusive, esoteric, or mystical – just because, being pre-conceptual, it is also pre-linguistic, so we can never really put it into words. But it is really the basis for all of our concepts and is an aspect of our every experience, although we generally overlook it. We are Being-in-the-world (to borrow a phrase from Heidegger), but Being is Being even before there are any beings capable of forming concepts of Being.

2006-10-25 02:29:59 · answer #1 · answered by eroticohio 5 · 4 0

the place do you think of christianity have been given it extremely is suggestions of a soul and afterlife from for goodness sake? They stole it from the pagan tribes and peoples which existed thousands and hundreds of years till now christianity!! From the stone age by way of vikings, Egyptians, Maoris, Aborigines, American Indians and quite the chinese language, all of them had tricky funerals and grave products to velocity the soul into the subsequent life with convenience!! So the dating to god is that the belief of the soul grew to become into stolen by way of christianity merely via fact the stole rather much each thing interior the religion from lots previously societies and religions!!

2016-11-24 23:57:35 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I think therefor I am. Sound familiar? Without people there would be no philosophy and visa versa.

2006-10-23 04:24:14 · answer #3 · answered by Ibeeware 3 · 0 0

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