Veils? What's the problem.?

Question

Presumably the veil-wearing teacher was employed wearing it and no-one had a problem with it up until the Jack Straw comment. How can they u-turn from that?

Answer 1

She was suspended before Jack Straw made any comment so obviously there was a problem beforehand.

Its not ok to wear middle age relgious garb in a modern country like Britain.

Answer 2

Veils Veils Veils, can't anybody at Yahoo let people know that this kind of question has been asked and answered lots of times in the past week. I'm not getting at the asker, it is not your fault. Some Muslims want to make a statement by trying to be controversial, and then say that they are being picked on because of their beliefs. The UK is a modern democratic society where everyone has a right to express their beliefs WITHIN THE RULES LAID DOWN,and the lady in question broke those rules and was quite rightly dismissed.
It seems that we are running scared of OFFENDING the Muslim community and go too far to appease them[Muslims]. There is always some groups or organisations that stir up trouble when anything like this hits the headlines, yet if there was a group that shouted loudly for white Christian men they would be dubbed either racist or fascist, so what are these groups that ONLY look after NON WHITE MUSLIMS? are they racist? Will I be dubbed a racist? I don't care, because I know I'm NOT. I just hate it when people make out that they've been wronged and they're in the wrong.

Answer 3

Now that it is clear this is not a religious dictate, nor the result of men suppressing women, the 'reason' given for the veil is an act of modesty, ie that women wear it in front of men.

As a man, I find this offensive and sexist. It says that I cannot control my lust when faced by a woman's chin.

Normally I have no problem with whatever a person wants to wear except if the reason they are doing so is offensive. So now I find the wearing of a veil in secular society questionable. What you do in your own home is up to you, however.

Answer 4

there's always one like you to be on the other side even if you have complete knowledge of the case in hand which you presumably don't. this lady was being spoken to about her veil wearing in school before Mr Straw made his comments so there is no u turn, and if you heard the comments from the British/Muslim spokesman yesterday he said he thought Mr Straw was correct!!! incidentally this lady was given £1000 I understand, i wonder what for and why and I noticed at one time she was wearing jeans and high heels and makeup, something seems to clash here !

Answer 5

She was not wearing the veil when she was interviewed, and she was interviewed by a man.
On tv and in the press the pictures of her wearing jeans and
wedge high heeled sandals under her robe were so odd!!
In the Daily Mail I read that her father was a headmaster and the school was attached to the mosque where the tube bombers used to pray. When she was interviewed I found her so scary
she seemed to be so full of rage. Dont think I would want her near any child of mine veil or no veil!!!

Answer 6

She obviously has been put up to this by someone with a political agenda to purposely create tension. Had she done the same in Turkey, Indonesia or Egypt (all predominately Muslim countries) she would be arrested.
She didn't wear the veil at her interview and when the matter came to a head she was given permission to wear it in the staff room and in corridors. She's just choosing to push the point.

Answer 7

As this question more or less was asked a couple of times in the last two weeks, I will add here a copy of my previous answer if that's OK!

I worked in Manchester for 16 years from 1975 - 1991. There were Muslims living and working in Manchester, some of them were my business colleagues some my employees. I do not remember at any time seeing women dressed from head to toe in black with a small slit across their eyes so that they could see where they were going.

So why when in Manchester last Friday were there loads of women dressed in this manner? As one of the answers here already states 'People should be free to have their own beliefs and traditions. Wearing a veil is not harming anyone.'

I would agree with that, but there is a major consideration here and it should be aligned with perception. Have these particular Muslims considered how they are perceived by the indigenous population of the UK, as they dress themselves in such an obviously ‘abnormal’ manner in comparison to traditional British standards, and that, in a country where they say they wish to integrate?

If the well-integrated Muslim women in Manchester in the 1970s-1990s were able to achieve this without bringing their historic form of clothing to the streets of Manchester, what is their purpose now?

Maybe they are trying to send the indigenous population a message - we are here, notice us, we are different from you, get used to it.

To be frank, I would have thought a low profile is what is needed today in the Muslim community, particularly now it has become known that we have 'home grown Muslim terrorists' in our midst and that some actually bombed and maimed in the London atrocities in 2005.

Where is the will to integrate when a section of the Muslim society appear to be so disintegrating?

Answer 8

The teacher did not refuse to take the veil off, according to her on an interview to the press ,she wouldn't mind having it off while teaching the children but in the presence of a male member of staff she would have to put it on or if a male staff walked in she would have to wear the veil. I think if this was the case then i think we have to respect that .

Answer 9

It's simple: by hiding your face you are saying that you are untrustworthy. There will be no u-turn. Lose the veil or lose out in public support. Millions of faithful Muslim women don't wear the veil and do not suffer for its' absence, so I don't want to hear any crap about trivializing a person's beliefs. That's like a stinking Christian whining he's being persecuted for his faith when I criticize him for attacking someone else's religion and values.

Answer 10

these days the veil does not signify opression but its more of a fashion accessory to many muslim girls. If you ever go to Pakistan you will very rarly find a women wearing the veil.
As a Muslim i dont agree with her wearing the veil in a classroom full of children, and i wouldnt want my child taught in a class like that.
One of my staff wore a veil to work and i found it very strange when i first started that she was able to get away with it in an NHS clinic. I found her very intimidating to work with.
The way i see it this girl just wanted to cause more trouble in an already sensetive situation.

Answer 11

I thought she turned to wearing it?

90%+ communication is non verbal - a teachers job IS communciation how can you do that through a letter slot??

A headcarf is ok its just the whole slave outfit. Kids at school should NOT be being taught that women are lesser than men and need to hide.

Do people, women especially realise that people taking Islam this far are the same that advocate needing FOUR witnesses to prove you have been raped or your tried for adultury, or you'll suffer an honour killing if you go out with a non-muslim, (its ok for guys to shag anything though)

If it so morally corrupt and hard to live here, find somewhere more moral like Afghanistan or Pakistan.