I assume this discussion is regarding the teacher in England who was recently sacked? What are we teaching the youth, when we think it's OK for a woman who does not want to show her face to a CLASSROOM OF CHILDREN to remain in a job? Would you have no objection to a guy in a leather bondage "gimp" mask doing that job? Or a KKK mask? To him, after all, it's part of his "lifestyle" and in his philosophy, as valid as the veil.
2006-10-22 07:34:27
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answered by Anonymous
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Oh dear...question number 979 concerning the veil - methinks the questions put on here now are to wind up the morons (of which, as we know, come out of the woodwork more often than we would like).
Does anyone remember the late seventies in the UK? The media and society in the whole hated punks and what they stood for - and so their 'disgust' pressed the button for most bairns (and even young adults in their early 20s) dress up as punks. I wonder if anyone has seen the current paranoiac screeching doing the same thing. One may say twinning it with the 'punk' thing is simplistic, as this is more about religion, rather than fashion, but look at it another way...there are students years ago in universities all over the western world who allegedly had never seen woman in veils - Salman Rushdie being one (no less), but I remember seeing them in Leicester in the mid seventies, and so women must have been wearing them also in Blackburn - where Jack Straw has been an MP since 1979...took him long enough to express his feelings!
Could it be Muslim women are wearing them more now on account of the paranoia installed by the media...'if you wear them you have summat to hide, pet,' so hints the worst right-wing tabloids (Daily Mail/Daily Express/The Sun) - and so they wear them to wind up society...there are no bombs or guns involved - but one doesn't have to do a great deal to get us sensitive Brits wailing nowadays.
2006-10-22 14:53:53
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answered by Anonymous
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I like your question, and thought I knew an answer to give you.
However, after thinking about it, no easy answer is available.
We should all have the right to show our religion and belief's to others, and others should accept this.
The big problem, in my opinion, is the fear people have of terrorists, and how this has led to more security, and the need to identify people.
My heart goes out to women who's religion requires them to cover their face, they must be under a great amount of stress.
But with respect, we should live by the law of the country in which we live.
To the best of my knowledge there is no law in the UK, stating you must not cover your face. The problem is why do you cover your face?
The answer would be, in my opinion, to conceal your identity. You then have to ask the question, why do you want to conceal your identity?
I wish I could give you an answer, but the state of the world at the moment, !!! Lets just hope things improve, get rid of terrorists, and let all people of all religions live as they want in the country of their choice in peace.
2006-10-22 15:34:55
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answered by Dr David 6
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There is a time and place for the veil and trying to teach children is not the place. the problem is the uk turns itself uppside down to make these people feel at home to the detriment of its own populace of which the majority are against the veil in schools.
Again its a small thing to us be inflated to a national incident.
one question i would raise how can the children learn when you cant see the whole face.
2006-10-22 14:41:31
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answered by tonyinspain 5
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I was always told that it is rude to cover your mouth when talking. If they want to wear one in their own home that isn't a problem but out in public they shouldn't. You wouldn't like to walk past a group of hoodies because you don't know who they are so anyone covering their face for no good reason can be intimidating. Muslim women do NOT have to wear a veil it is their own choice.
2006-10-22 14:32:04
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answered by Anonymous
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I am a Muslim girl but I don't wear one. Can we get something straight please.
IT DOES NOT SAY IN THE QURAN YOU HAVE TO WEAR ONE
that is culture. Personally you can wear what you like but in the case of the teacher who was suspended, that was fine because how are little children and deaf people going to understand the silly woman if they can't see her face?. I can understand the security issue but people are using the whole thing as an excuse to be racist. There is nothing wrong with wearing a hijab( a scarf on your head, old ladies and nuns wear them) but a veil isolated women. You can't always understand and recognise them. Also contrary to poular belief they are not forced to do it.
I am a Muslim, the sole thing about myself that I am very very proud of. I am integrated in your society as my religion will allow me. I don't wear revealing clothes, I cover up with skirts and corded trousers etc I don't wear a scarf, I don't drink and go to nightclubs. I go to uni, go where I like with my friends and family, many white British people live like me if you don't think I am integrating into your society, DEPORT ME!
2006-10-22 14:55:10
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answered by The Face 3
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I don't really have a problem with it myself but i can see why people see as being negative. If you think about it, if ur in a classroom and you have a teacher with the veil across their face it can make it harder to learn, because without it you can't see expressions which helps you to learn jus as much as talking and everything else especially with young children. think about when you were little and you were being read a story and u made the voices and expressions. Don't get the extra connection if you know what i mean. but know i don't really have a problem with it either!
2006-10-22 14:39:38
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answered by Anonymous
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It's not a problem, as long as the girls that wear them are not forced into wearing them. Also the people who have taken offence at what Straw said should read his actual article and leave all the hatred to the racists, from both communities, that have seen this as an opportunity to stare up hate.
2006-10-22 14:36:02
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answered by Hendo 5
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Well consider this.
Case 1:One such woman - a teacher in the UK - was sacked because she refused to remove her viel. She has since been succesful in suing the school for unfair dismissal.
Case 2: An English check-in girl working at British Airways was sacked because she refused to remove the cross necklace that her bosses said may offend other religions.. I very much doubt she got ANYWHERE with her claim for unfair dismissal
2006-10-22 14:34:06
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answered by Billy 2
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It is often their own choice, believe it or not. But I don't like the fact when everything is hidden, even the hands. Even the eyes are barely shown. When a person buried under all these layers needs to act in public, it hinders any form of communication with other people. I cannot believe in the good of that. It serves no purpose of any kind, except maybe to please the husband or to follow religious guidelines, although I have never read such a thing in the Koran.
2006-10-22 14:32:18
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answered by Avatar13 4
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