How could the elections been rigged in florida when they recounted over and over and over and bush still won?

Question

Crybabies.

Answer 1

Why do you neocons continue to live in the past?

Answer 2

Well, I know it's been repeated over and over again-that the votes in Florida were counted & recounted-that doesn't make it completely true. Don't you find it ironic, that as Governor of Texas, GW signed legislation approving a hand recount in election disputes in that state, then went to court to stop exactly that in another state?

The US Supreme Court stopped the hand recount.5 justices decided to vote to stop the recount while 4 voted in dissent.

Justice John Paul Stevens (Republican appointed by Ford):
"Although we may never know with complete certainty the identity of the winner of this year's
Presidential election, the identity of the loser is perfectly clear. It is the Nation's confidence in
the judge as an impartial guardian of the rule of law."

Justice David Souter (Republican appointed by Bush):
"Before this Court stayed the effort to [manually recount the ballots] the courts of Florida were
ready to do their best to get that job done. There is no justification for denying the State the
opportunity to try to count all the disputed ballots now.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Democrat appointed by Clinton):
Chief Justice Rehnquist would "disrupt" Florida's "republican regime." [In other words,
democracy in Florida is imperiled.] The court should not let its "untested prophecy" that counting
votes is "impractical" "decide the presidency of the United States."

Justice Steven Breyer (Democrat appointed by Clinton):
"There is no justification for the majority's remedy . . . " We "risk a self-inflicted wound -- a
wound that may harm not just the court, but the nation."

The Florida Supreme Court decided that the votes should be recounted, GW took that to the US Supreme Court. The US Supreme Court sent the case back to the Florida Supreme Court, stopping the recount and saying basically they needed to clarify standards for the recount. The Florida Supreme Court did that(think hanging chads) and GW took it back to the US Supreme Court which said whoops, we're out of time, the recount can't go forward. And GW "won".

That's pretty simplistic, I realize, but do you really think an election should ever, ever be decided because we don't have time for Democracy? Shouldn't our elections always be transparent? Information should be a good thing-after all we're not in a dictatorship, right?

Answer 3

Here are the results of the most comprehensive study of the ballots:

Review of All Ballots Statewide (never undertaken)
• Standard as set by each county Canvassing Board during their survey Gore by 171
• Fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots Gore by 115
• Any dimples or optical mark Gore by 107
• One corner of chad detached or optical mark Gore by 60

Review of Limited Sets of Ballots (initiated but not completed)
• Gore request for recounts of all ballots in Broward, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Volusia counties Bush by 225
• Florida Supreme Court of all undervotes statewide Bush by 430
• Florida Supreme Court as being implemented by the counties, some of whom refused and some counted overvotes as well as undervotes Bush by 493

Certified Result (official final count)
• Recounts included from Volusia and Broward only Bush by 537


Thus, you can see that the recount requested by Gore would not have worked, but any method of recounting all ballots by hand statewide would have led to a Gore victory.

Whether the arguments about it being rigged or not, the fact that this type of recount was not undertaken (even though not requested by Gore) is kinda shameful. I know that we can never be perfect, but when a presidential election is THAT close, shouldn't we have taken the time to make sure it was as close to perfect as possible?

Just sayin'

Answer 4

Because the Sec. of State for Florida certified the counts without counting the recounts. The US Supreme Court then intervened and said she was right to certify the vote when she did. The record is clear.

Answer 5

By scrubbing black voters, who traditionally vote Democratic, from the roles for having the SAME NAME as a felon. The company that was contracted to perform this illegal disenfranchisement testified to their having been directed to do this.
Also, full recount, which admittedly was not requested, but is required by law, had Gore as the winner.

Answer 6

I don't care. I was so happy that Gore lost. I hate the idea that a VP. should automatically be the next Pres. But that election just like all other elections on earth was bereft with errors.

You give it your best shot some people will always cheat others will punch the wrong chad who knows why. You just get out and vote. Then let the Plutocrats run Washington while taking more of your hard earned money.

Go big Red Go

Answer 7

Well first Kathleen Harris was responsible for a large number of black voters being declared uneligble to vote because their names were similar to a convicted felon. Well then it was actually counted and recounted, they just stopped counting.
Soo...yah...does that help? Probably not, you will think wh at you want anyway.

Answer 8

They didn't let the recounts finish supreme court made them finish the recount at 12 midnight when after they issued the ruling at 10pm the same day!

Answer 9

Demos think it was rigged because Buchanin had an unusually high voting percentage in a certain area. But of course no one ever taught these people that correlation does not mean causation

Answer 10

The ballots were poorly designed, increasing the chance of an error when voting. This hurt Gore because Gore was the second name on the ballot but his hole for voting was not the second hole.

Answer 11

They weren't rigged. Keep in mind that elections are administered on a county by county basis in FL. The counties where you heard all the screams had Dem election commissioners.