Regarding hodies and veil question, here is clarification...?

Question

i am questioning the logic behind not asking women to remove their veil in public when we are asking the hodies of some youth to be removed. I egknowledge the fact that the crime rate is surely higher among young yobs wearing hodies than among muslim women wearing the veil, but mistunderstand me correctly that when we asking something of someone we have to take it to go for other people as well, otherwise we are creating a very selected and segregated country. (for example what stops a yob than dressing up as a muslim woman and go rob a shop for example, where the shop-owner is to worried about political corectness than to ask the person to remove the veil??? its hard to judge a person on a pair of eyes, a bit of mascara is all you need to change 'personality') just a thought really...

Answer 1

there is a huge difference, culture vs religion. That would be like asking me not to wear my Celtic cross in public as it might offend someone else's sensibilities.

Answer 2

This is a perfectly valid point. Both are alien to our culture as both separate these groups from mainstream society. While the hoodie can be barred from premises for a fashion statement they will grow out of the veil is here to stay unless our culture defends itself. Don't get me wrong, I accept the wearing of the scarf totally but I object to someone insisting that we should accommodate something that goes against our culture. Would she argue that I have a human right to visit a mosque and refuse to remove my shoes because my culture says it's not necessary? Wouldn't she be more comfortable living in a country where this is the norm? Or is she simply wanting the best of all worlds in the realisation that in many Islamic countries she wouldn't even be allowed to work because she is female.

Answer 3

The veil, or "hijab"-- is just a headcovering (only goes over your hair), which many believe is mandatory in Islam (some say it is debatable though). What you just described however is the "niqaab", which covers everything except the eyes. No one says that the niqaab is mandatory in Islam, certain universities in the middle east even consider it unacceptable!

I think the banning of the veil is wrong because it prevents someone from practicing their religion-- the banning of niqaab in certain areas I can kind of understand...because safety comes into play.

The person that spoke about culture vs. religion made a good point too...

Answer 4

I think it should be compulsory for Muslim women to remove their veil in public places. There is no hard and fast rule on muslim women wearing veils it is voluntary segregation and is leading to more problems in society. If we were in a muslim country (which contrary to popular belief we are NOT) we would be required to respect their way of life and their society rules. Why should we pander to political correctness here when they would not do it in a muslim country.
I have had plenty comments on my religion out on the street but I recognise that not everyone believes in the same thing. I am a pagan and believe every bit as strongly in my religion as muslims, christians etc believe in theirs. The comments I get about my pentacles and pentagrams are pretty harsh as everyone associates them with devil worship (medieval propaganda).
So why not be reasonable and remove the veils for the sake of tolerance and integration?? No more fundamentalists please this is The UNITED Kingdom!!!!!!

Answer 5

Yes I get your point entirely and yes it could happen this is were the government should do something.
Being political correct where does one go from there even writing on here could be classed as not being politically correct seems as any form of free speech is not for us.

Answer 6

Good point!

Answer 7

good point!!!!...though i hope you havent planted a seed of ideas in any young minds??!!lol