If man is the first being with free will, how could Lucifer rebel? Or was it by design?

Question

What I mean is, God made the angels first, and man after. And man is the first being with free will. So it strikes me that Lucifer would not have the free will to rebel against God. I mean, fern plants do not have vocal organs, so they cannot speak. So it's ridiculous to think that the plant CAN speak, ever. So I say God made Lucifer rebel, and thus has heaped a lot of bad press on Lucifer that really, should be laid at the feet of God.

Answer 1

Take is from the Frankenstein novel, all things created eventually despised their creator.
If Lucifer rebelled and a third of the heavenly court willingly followed him to hell, then what does that say about the state of Heaven.
Maybe it is not everything it is cut out to be.
After we were given free will but told that we could not worship another god.
Is that not giving a taking back at the same time?
"It is better to rule in hell then it is to reign in heaven,"
Quote makes you think.

Answer 2

If you believe in the Christian allegory, and by that I mean that using the story of God/Jesus/angels helps YOU better understand and appreciate the spiritual world, then you must believe that nothing happens without God knowing.

If that holds true, and as you have pointed out, the angels are devoid of free will and are just pure manifestations of God's will; then, Lucifer's rebellion is indeed a part of God's greater plan.

With all that said, I see it in the way that good, or evil, is meaningless without the presence of the other, just in the same way that light and shadow interact. And in order to give meaning to free will, you must have the ability to choose: good, or evil; God, or Lucifer; light, or darkness.

Without Lucifer there could have been no free will, since the only option would have been God.

Answer 3

As I understand it..being raised Catholic..God also gave the Angels free will. The Angels were created as superior beings above man and below God. Lucifer chose of his own free will to rebel against God and was cast out by Michael the Archangel.

Answer 4

Lucifer was an angel first, how he became evil and fell from grace is a puzzling question. Angels are made to be Gods soldiers and since Lucifer was jealous of Him, so the story goes, and jealousy is evil and there was no devil in heaven, how did lucifer accuire that character trait? I suppose only God knows the truth about this and all the other unanswered difficult questions regarding His Word. When you die maybe you'll get your answer.

Answer 5

Lucifer also has a free will. The Angels have a free will.
Lucifer and a large number of angels rebelled against God and were cast out of heaven.

Answer 6

they're seperate issues that in a true effective debate you cant possibly relate the two together,y'see lucifer was gods right hand man,and like so many that are second in command,they start to feel resentful and hey maybe i could run this company better,gods always away from the office playing golf and im left here to do all the work,basically lucifer was a disgruntled employee.whereas the whole adam and eve thing is all about god saying dont eat from the tree cuz its mine and if you do then youll know stuff youre not supposed to and bad things will happen,but lucifer is still disgruntled after getting fired and hes jealous of the new kids so he plots to ruin them,convinces them to eat the fruit and well the rest is history,we lose our innocence by sinning and we get free will in return. if you really want to get pissed off at god and his dysfunctional relationship with lucifer read job,that whole book of the bible is all about lucifer talking god into crapping on this guys beautiful life just to prove how faithful he is,thats just mean that god got suckered into that.

Answer 7

The angels he created also had free will; therefore, Lucifer was the first created being to rebel. And yes, it was totally by design, for God knew who would rebel. God did not make Lucifer rebel, nor does he 'make' anyone rebel, for that would take away our ability to make choices. He does know who will accept or reject him. The deeper question is quite intriguing: He knows who will come to himself, so we really do not have a choice in accepting him or not, because if we did have that choice, our will would be greater than his, and that is an impossibility. But we do have the ability to make choices in how we follow him.

Answer 8

Lucifer was an angel second only to God, God created man and man is the only non-angel with free will. Lucifer got jealous of God and and rebelled under his own will.
whosoever believes God is at fault is blasphemic and shall be condemned by God. Only a Satan worshipper would believe such rhetoric.

Answer 9

Lucifer was never a man. He was created as the most beautiful of Gods angels who fell because he sought after power. He wanted to be as God therefore, God banished him to walk the earth. In turn, gave him his kingdom. That is why there is negative energy and sin which is another word for temptation because humans received free will by partaking of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

as for the statement fern plants do not have the vocal organs implying they do not rebel. In the bible it tells you of the fig tree that did not bear fruit in its season therefore Jesus cursed it. So anything with life has the power to rebel.

Answer 10

Did God create sin?

No, God did not create sin. God is holy and He would not create that which is contrary to His nature. Sinfulness is the opposite of holiness. It is lawlessness (1 John 3:4). God is the author of the Law which is a reflection of His holy character (Exodus 20). Therefore, God cannot create that which is in direct violation of the Law any more than a person can wish himself to be bigger than the sun. It just isn’t possible.
But, if God didn’t create sin, then where did it come from? This is a question that has been debated by theologians and philosophers for many years. I cannot say that I have any better answers than they. Nevertheless, let me venture a guess.
God created the conditions where free will creatures would be able to make a choice between obedience and disobedience to God. This condition existed when God created an angel called Lucifer who was without sin yet, apparently, had free will. Lucifer chose to rebel against God and sin (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezek. 28:13-15). Likewise, Adam and Eve, having been made by God without sin, listened to the devil and chose to sin against God (Gen. 3).
But God did not cause them to sin (James 1:13). In the freedom of their wills, each decided to rebel against God and sin entered the world (Rom. 5:12). God simply allowed the condition to exist where sin was possible.
An analogy can be found in the relationship between a parent and a child. A parent can create the condition that makes disobedience possible yet the parent remains innocent if the child sins. For example, if a parent tells his child to clean up his room and the child does not, he has rebelled. But, the parent is not responsible for the child’s sin, nor did he cause the child to sin. The child had a choice to obey or not to obey.
Likewise, God has created the condition in the world where the ability to rebel against Him was possible. Yet, he is not responsible for that rebellion once it has been committed. Therefore, sin originated with Lucifer who was the first to rebel and entered the world through Adam who likewise chose disobedience.