I know the answer, but am curious what others think. I am a top level supervisor. We consult with top lawyers before terminating highly incompetent staff. Why is the first question the lawyers ask is if the staff member is black? Why does that affect our course of action?
2006-10-20 16:46:16 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Business & Finance ➔ Careers & Employment
Allow me to elaborate for knt1229, who feels that our business must be shady if we need to consult lawyers. We are a nonprofit organization that provides services like housing and school for developmentally disabled adults. The State funds us to pay staff around $10 per hour to serve this vulnerable population. The field has always had problems with staff incompetence, vacancy and turnover. We train staff like crazy, document and use progressive discipline when needed. We fire staff for things like physical abuse and stealing everything that isn't nailed down. Blacks can get free legal counsel if they claim discrimination. Then we typically pay $5-10,000 per case in lawyer fees to have them thrown out for lack of probable cause. It sickens me because that money should be going to our consumer's services. We choose to pay the lawyers proactively and review each case prior to termination.
Still think I'm a shady whitey?
2006-10-21 03:32:20 · update #1
Because a black person that is getting fired even though they are incompetent know that they can pull the race card. At my one job that I had I had two blacks do things that were automatic firings. Both came back and tried to use the race card to get their jobs back. The one left work without clocking out after coming to work for the umpteenth time late ( he was only 1 1/2 hours late) the other decided to take three days off in the middle of the week without letting anyone know.
2006-10-20 16:52:11 · answer #1 · answered by andy 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
First, you should't need to consult top lawyers to terminate highly incompetent staff. And the only lawyers that will ask the race of an employee are the ones that fear of getting hit with a human rights issue, so they consult other 'top lawyers' on the issue. Most states are 'at will' states, meaning an employer can terminate an employee for any reason whatsoever...so long as it's not based on discrimination, which would violate federal and state laws.
2006-10-20 23:54:15 · answer #2 · answered by dryamaka 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why would you need to consult a lawyer in order to fire someone regardless of race?
It seems to me that your company is up to some shady business dealings. There must have been or continues to be some legality issuses with your hiring and firing process for you to need "top lawyers" to help you with firing employees that you claim are "highly incompetent".
And let's be honest here. If they were that incompetent how did they get the job in the first place?
2006-10-21 04:04:12 · answer #3 · answered by knt1229 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because your lawyers know the very first thing blacks are going for is the racism card. Then Al Sharpden and the NAACP will soon be there to try and make it so.
2006-10-21 00:02:46 · answer #4 · answered by Funnel 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Anything that looks like discrimination is the cause for fine tooth combing. Furthermore, some groups of people have a whole lot more political support (clout) and watchdog groups than others -- united they stand. And they can stand very well.
2006-10-20 23:57:11 · answer #5 · answered by joyann 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You can terminate them because they are incompetent, just make sure that you have well documented evidence of this incompetence in case they try to argue it. Talk to them, record all these meetings and allow them a witness present.
2006-10-21 04:31:27 · answer #6 · answered by Jez 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't know the answer but I assume maybe that it's because you have to handle the situation a little more gingerly as to prevent potential lawsuits? But don't you have to do the same thing if they're female, handicapped, near retirement age, etc.? Like I said, I have no idea. What's the answer?
2006-10-20 23:52:10 · answer #7 · answered by tomato 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
because any minority can raise the race card. the company needs to protect itself from those minorities (black, hispanic, asian etc) that feel they are being treated unfairly due to their race because its an easy fight. how many times have you heard a white person say they were fired because they were white?
2006-10-20 23:56:48 · answer #8 · answered by deathwishpussy 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
some will scream you are firing them because of their nationality instead of the real issue at hand
2006-10-20 23:51:19 · answer #9 · answered by Mopar Muscle Gal 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋