Movies always confused me about the authority of the Prince of Wales and the Prince of England with respect to U.K as a whole. Which of these princes had the higher authority in ancient U.K
2006-10-20 01:43:10 · 10 answers · asked by nyameaye sylvester 1 in Arts & Humanities ➔ History
Being a "prince of England" simply means that you were born into the royal family of England. Being the "Prince of Wales" means that you were the next in line to the throne after whatever serving monarch is currently reigning.
2006-10-20 01:46:17 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Txriss90 has got it right. The traditional title of "Prince of Wales" is given to the male heir to the throne. I don't think "a prince of England" has any ancient meaning apart from being a son of the current monarch. It is probably a newspaper term as I am English (well, partly) and I have not being aware of the term "Prince of England"
Incidentally, the second son usually gets the title "The Duke of York"
So to answer your question, "The Prince of Wales" is the higher authority.
2006-10-20 01:58:03 · answer #2 · answered by 13caesars 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Movies are invariably produced in the USA and they haven't got a clue. Prince of Boston? Prince of Texas? or Prince of Florida?
You pay your money and you take your choice. The first Prince of Wales was recognised by Edward I, and was Llywellyn Ap Gruffudd.
Edward III appointed his son (known as the Black Prince) Prince of Wales and established the tradition of the Heir to the English Throne also being called the Prince of Wales. Prince of England could be anyone! With direct Royal connections of course.
2006-10-20 03:00:42 · answer #3 · answered by cymry3jones 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
There is no such title as the Prince of England.The heir of the monarch takes the title of Prince of Wales.This tradition started in 1301 with Edward the First .
Originaly though the title was held by the ruler of Wales although in Welsh the title was 'Tywysog Cymru' which was translated into English as prince of Wales but in it's original language means leader (I think) .It was translated to prince by the English to prince to undermine the te leader and make it seem they had less authority than the name leader would imply.
I believe the last genuine Tywysog Cymru was Llewelyn ap Gruffydd who lost the tittle after being defeated by the Norman /English king Edward the first .However Owain Gyndwr who lived from 1349 to 1416 ( I think) is considered by many to be the last Tywysog Cymru after fighting for Welsh freedom from English occupation .
Hope that helps
2006-10-20 06:47:52 · answer #4 · answered by Haydn 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is no formal title 'Prince of England,' a Prince of England describes only a Prince of Royal blood, ie: Prince Andrew, Prince Harry, etc.
The Prince of Wales on the other hand is an ancient title given to the first son of a reigning monarch, and who is the heir to the throne and is the pre-eminent Prince in the UK.
2006-10-20 01:52:44 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is not such thing as 'Prince of England' apart from a man born into the royal line, prince of wales is the next male royal to be on the throne.
2006-10-20 11:56:54 · answer #6 · answered by goldranger2004 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It started in the early 14th century (someone else has said 1301 and I think that is indeed correct), when Edward I created his son, Edward of Canaervon (later Edward II) Prince of Wales. Edward had conquered Wales in the 1280s, in which conquest the last "true born" prince of Wales, Llewellyn ap Gryffydd, was killed; then David, Llewellyn's brother, who inherited his mantle, was captured and executed by Edward (the first person to be hanged, drawn and quartered for treason in England) ... so no English king could have created a Prince of Wales before then.
But there ain't no such title as "Prince of England".
2006-10-20 07:44:26 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
not in any respect heard of there being a Prince of england. Prince of Wales is the identify given to the eldest son of the reigning monarch. you say in 'historic time' - what time do you advise? in the very very old days no doubt the guy who replaced into the greatest with the biggest military might want to have had more advantageous 'authority'.
2016-12-05 01:02:51 · answer #8 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
prince of England is never referred to but the prince of wales is heir to the throne
2006-10-22 08:29:37 · answer #9 · answered by srracvuee 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think the Tudors (possibly Henry 7th) started the tradition of the Prince of Wales when they first took the throne, giving the eldest son a country of his own to rule groomed him to become king of England.
2006-10-20 02:04:39 · answer #10 · answered by Skippy 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋