Who exactly are the fascists?

Question

The Americans like to call the Iraqi freedom fighters Islamo-fascists, what exactly is this? Now a government who passes a law like the patriot act, alows certain torture invades sovereign countries and tells the rest of the world you are with us or we will **** you next, is this not Hitler like?

I would like to add that Americans make alot of assuptions when answering my questions, I want answers not snotty little quips that you think are really witty

Answer 1

Spot on, they also say on here a lot if you don't agree with it leave the country

Answer 2

Fascism is a political ideology that was very popular in Europe in the first half of this century. It is an extreme "right-wing" political philosophy. Fascism gained popularity for a variety of reasons; one of which is that it was a reaction to the seemingly unstoppable spread of Communism after the Bolshevik Revolution. The Spanish Civil War saw Fascism in power. The Italians, under Mussolini, were Fascist. And, of course, so was Hitler. Fascism is identifiable by a number of traits:
1. Capitalism and a "free" economy. The right of the individual to amass wealth.
2. Nationalism. A belief in one's own nation being superior.
3. Totalitarianism. A single, clearly recognisable figurehead that leads "the party" and thus "the state".
4. Propaganda. Information is controlled (often ruthlessly) by the party via control of telecommunications and other media.
5. A Private Army loyal only to "the leader".
6. A Scapegoat. Someone to be the focus of the people's hatred.
7. Key assets (power companies, rail, telecommunications) are under state control.
Now, the US label of Iraqi freedom fighters as fascists may be a little far-fetched. Partisans? Sure. Nationalists? Sure. Fascists? Dunno. And although the US is adopting some fairly hard-line right-wing politics, I don't think I would be calling them Fascists either. Close. But not quite.

Answer 3

The American administration are counting on you not thinking, nor understanding the true definition of fascism. IE a pyramidic state structure which is a military corporatocracy led by a leader who will not stand criticism, and demands loyalty, wants absolute rule of his nation, and suports unlimited detention of enemies without charge or trial.

Islamic groups are a loose network, non-state and non-corporate, therefore cannot possibly be described as fascist.

The US however fits the bill far more closely. The USA is NOT the land of the free anymore. it is NOW the land of the make sure the President doesn't have cause to label you a combatant, whether accurately, or by mistake.

The military commisions act means that ANYONE can be detained and even if YOU are detained by mistake, YOU CANNOT QUESTION YOUR DETENTION. Habeus Corpus will be denied you. you've had it!

So, how can your indefinate detention without charge or trial, and without the right to question your accussers be compatible with the land of the free?

Indefinate detention is the opposite of freedom.

Answer 4

yes it is and they want this aswell as the american goverments turning into a nazi ragiem before everyones eyes the war on iraq and 9/11 plays into there hands they want iraq and the rest of islamic states to become exactly what they are being all the islamic fundamentalists have gained so much support through there nazi campaigne through using all the same tricks as the nazis did before ww2,these so called single wars iraq,lebanon and palestine and everywhere else where islamic fundermentalists are blowing people up is all part of one majour war there all together in there goal which has always been to rid the world of non muslims whats scary is there support world wide is imence and quite scary and this is all playing into the hands of america if not the western world beleive it or not ,when youve got a little time go on google video and watch obsession:radical islams war against the west then watch alex jones police state you dont have to beleive all of it but its best to be informed theres alot of info and footage and fact that the mainstream media isnt covering and people are just accepting what there fed ,the facts are out there for all to see.

Answer 5

This is really an interesting question. I thought at first that you were simply using the question to express your own irritation with various political groups in America. However, I find that there really hasn't been a definition of fascist that everyone agrees on after the defeat of the Axis powers in WWII. Nobody will admit to being a fascist these days. So we seem to have lost a fairly useful word because it has become a slur, name-calling.

It does seem to imply an authoritarian way of thinking, and setting up a dichotomy between them and us, rather than emphasizing the democracy and rights of all people.

Please allow me to apologise for all those unpleasant people from my country who have presented themselves as being flippant. One can only hope that their bad manners come from a deep sense of embarrassment.

Answer 6

The term "fascism" has a number of definitions that apply, most of which are contradictory. In fact, a rather emtional debate occurred over the past 50 years as to what the standard definition should be.

Dr. Robert O. Paxton probably has the most comprehensive explanation.

"Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."

A great deal of ink has been spilled by those who want to apply this definition to the US, but it seems obvious that such efforts are not credible. The Rule of Law still applies in the United States as every US citizen accused of terrorist ties has had his rights upheld, the invasion of countries that harbor enemies to your own people has been a credible act of self defence all throughout written history, and a warning to avoid cooperation with those who wish to attack your own people is also a an act of self defense.

Comparing the current regime to Hitler also shows a profound ignorance of history. Germany under Hitler attacked other nations with no other provocation than they wanted to conquer territory and commit genocide. (Look up the use Hitler made of the word "lebensraum".) The US, by contrast, is currently attempting to defang international terrorist organizations.

In fact, the term "fascist" applies to our terrorist enemy. After all, it is perfectly acceptable to speak out against the current US government. No one will cut your head off and film it for the Internet, and agents of the government (ie: the police) will even put their own lives on the line in order to protect you from that fate. That is not something that can be said of our enemies, who gleefully slaughter innocent people just because they don't happen to belong to the same religion.

James

Answer 7

The Bush administration fits all the definition of Fascists/ Nazis. In fact,. do a search for Bush Family Secrets and start reading the lionks. It's mind blowing.

Answer 8

i think you will find the terrorists are the fascists as they want a muslim only world ran by sharia law the americans aren't in iraq or afghanistan trying to convert people but help them build democracies for all people to have their say and people like you who wish to see the americans as the bad guy are making it easier fo the terrorists to achieve their goal

Answer 9

Yes, we are turning into a fascist state. the writing is on the wall. How do these states occur, often by false flag, state sponsored terrorist attacks. Very sad ppl don't realize this

Answer 10

When your brother is under your sister and your mom is sitting on her face and allah is holding the camera ,who is the fascist.