what is your opinion of it especially the part about all the ways republicans cheated in 2004 (don't answer if you aren't willing or able to read it as I am looking for intelligent responses from people who actually will read it. What if anything can be done to fix the problem? I guess it doesn't matter if you are losing..just purge 500,000 voters or 10% and your oppoents 12% lead vanishes making it easir to stel the rest through your many other means of cheating..
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/2181
2006-10-20 01:01:56 · 9 answers · asked by mindy 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Elections
EDIT to proud to be...I have been a first hand witness to voter disenfranchisment..I worked the polls in Masy 04 and Nov 04 in 2 minority/poor areas and saw the lines go from 5 minutes to 2-4 hours. I saw several voting movies about Ohio..in American Blackout, I saw where one machine was removed from nearly every innner city precinct and that ezact number of voting machines were found in storage while people were begging for them. II heard sworn under oath testimony from Ohioans (voters and poll workers) of what they experienced...those who voted in theor suburb in 5 minutes and worked in inner city and saw 5 hour lines. My republican newspaper reported on the voting machines being shorted in inner city despite record turnout. I saw people who couldn't wait 5 hours because of kids or work or disability or age cry and be sad and sick when they left. I attended hearing before US congress of Clint Curtis testifying under oath that he designed voting machine software that flipped the
2006-10-20 01:22:33 · update #1
vote and was undetectbel and self erasing for Jeb Bush's running mate now congressman Feeny. Curtis was a 40 year republican whistle blower and passed 2 lie detector tests. I am extremely involved in this issue for three years and know a heck of a lot more about Ohio vote fraud than you so bring it on as they say..I am not stupid or uninformed but grad in the top 2% of my college. (excuse spelling errors)
2006-10-20 01:25:31 · update #2
EDIT to bidymoon..no real facts huh..this was widely reported including in the local paper for Gahanna the Colubus dispatch along with several other reported facts I quote from the article one fact "We coined the phrase "loaves and fishes vote count" to describe the tally in Gahanna, Ohio, 2004. This infamous precinct in suburban Columbus registered 4258 votes for George W. Bush where just 638 people voted. The blessed event occurred at a fundamentalist church run by a close ally of the Reverend Jerry Falwell. " {Please do not make unsupported statement without research or reading the article.
2006-10-20 01:33:14 · update #3
EDIT to ??--thanks for your rational post. Yes just a few days ago a friend and I posted Blackwell's debate (he is the one purging voters who is down 12% points against the dem, and within 5 mnutes in the dark (9:30) a guard from the TV station comes out to mny 50 year old female friends peacefully holding a protest sign..shows her three picture of herself with all her contact info (address/phone/etc) from higway patrol, and two other agencies and calls her a "known troublemaker"..for what being a good activist and caring about the country and excersizing firast amendment rights. Trust me, friend, it will get so much worse...police state is coming...and worse. I hope someone will be here to save us when it happen and remembers all americans aren't in favor of Bush and his awful policies.
2006-10-20 01:38:17 · update #4
macx--trust me this man is not an idiot..he is a highly intelligent professor, attorney, editor, author, and investigative reporter and many of these things he mentions were reported in the newspaper in Columbus (dispatch)
2006-10-20 01:40:36 · update #5
edit to reeferman It is a powerful article because of the truth in it and because the author is a powerful man who almost singlehandedly got the problems in oOhio to the attention of the US congres and into the congressional redcord (conyers report-what went wrong in Ohio) for the historic election challenge (2nd n 228 years on Jan 6, 2004. Beleive it or nt this same problems with more votes than voters happened on that voting machine companies machines throughout the us. 57,000 voting irregularities were reported. go to this link and click on the US and ohio map to see jsut some of the reported prioblems (right side of page 2nd down). http://www.votersunite.org/info/flyers.asppf
I am very involved with votuig rights advvocates and the concensus is only paper ballots hand counted at the precinct are safe..electronic tabulators and counter )optical scanners) of punch card and ballot ballets and electronic voting machines are all easily hacked. Almost all computer experts agree
2006-10-20 01:52:07 · update #6
that electronic equipmwnt can be hacked and hacked easily (usually in a minute or two)..a good voting site is FAIRNESSBYBECKERMAN.BLOGSPOT.COM He has documented almost everything out there (freepress linked above is good too). A buill was just introduced in US congress HB6200 that would require (if it passed) that all presidential elections be on paper ballots hand counted at the precinct and totally transparent. Please yu seen like a smart person..email congree representastives (our own or others) and ask them to cosponsor and support HB6200. This is a fantastic start and we were all thrilled when it was announced a few weeks ago.
2006-10-20 01:56:43 · update #7
here's the link http://fairnessbybeckerman.blogspot.com/
2006-10-20 01:57:25 · update #8
to last poster--no much of the article is talking about how they are stealing 2006..
2006-10-20 01:58:18 · update #9
hjere are the links to the republican who testified befre congress he designed vote rigging software in 2000 in florida for Jeb Bush running mate and friend..it is on three videos (about 10 minutes)..passed 2 lie detectors tests, 2 dogs killed and death threats for whistleblowing it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPdwgNKQ9kQ&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz3BLIfiIUc&mode=user&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mqymYciNjc&mode=related&search=
2006-10-20 02:03:32 · update #10
I think it is very well written and is shocking in its scope of the many ways they used to commit vote fraud. It makes one wonder what we don't know..just like the corruption scandals were probably just the tip of the iceberg too. This looks like a good website.
They say it's harder to cover your vote fraud if there is a wider lead but it looks like they just remove the voters and that shrinks the lead...and just think of all the money the media makes in our fake elections.
As to what to do about it, that is a problem..the only thing I can think of is if we somehow got all electronic machines and counters out of our voting and returned to pen and paper...but that will never happen.
2006-10-20 01:14:45 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
That is a very powerful article. Personally I think they should get rid of the electronic voting machines and use the old punch card system. I understand what they are saying tho about those cards coming up missing. It is really ashame that they have to cheat in order to win a race. Whatever happened to the good ol' days when the person running won because he deserved to win not win because he had friends changing the ballots.
As far as the Democrats not doing anything, it may seem that they are not doing anything but they are probably waiting to make sure that what happened in the past does not happen again. I mean come on didn't anyone see that there was a problem when that town in Ohio had more votes then those who voted. That would have sent up a red flag and another form of voting should have been implemented immediately. I think they should come up with a system where you phone in your votes. Have one number for the republicans and one number for the democrats and one for the independants. Granted it may not work but then again it seems like everything else they have come up with does not work either.
One can only hope that there will be "honest" people at the polls this year and not cheat. I am sure it will be a cold day in he ll when that happens.
2006-10-20 01:30:09 · answer #2 · answered by miamac49616 4 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Hi i,m a Brit but i have seen a lot of similar allegations to the ones made in this article and also fear for our democracy because the power that seems to be held over our govt by the bush regime.Unfortunately nothing short of revolution or total boycott by the democrats will any of these problems be addressed and we all know how the law apparatus would be used against an uprising now that bush can declare anybody he likes an unlawful combatant.There seems to have been a very well orchestrated campaign over the last 5 years to create the ultimate police state with the support of the easily lead born again Christians and the disenchantment of the free thinking peoples of whom made AMERICA the once great nation it was and may never be again.
2006-10-20 01:24:19 · answer #3 · answered by ??? 3 · 4⤊ 2⤋
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2016-08-31 23:53:56 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I read it, but I can't say I'm impressed. Though I am very much anti-Bush myself, this article mirrors the sort of thing you'd read on a site by fanatical Republicans. The only difference is in what it attacks, not how it's done. It's equally presumptuous and based on opinion and allegations. In the onslaught of rabid Republican press, I think it's a crying shame that Democrats should resort to similarly stupid manners. You don't get rid of a moron by acting like an idiot.
2006-10-20 01:25:01 · answer #5 · answered by McAtterie 6 · 2⤊ 4⤋
I read it. It is an editorial. Personal opinions from two people who have a political agenda.
No facts. Just assumptions.
Should tell you something if the Democratic Party isn't even supportive of this conspiracy.
You want intelligent responses but you keep passing off unproven accusations as fact. Doesn't take a brain surgeon to see this.
Perhaps the people who read this thread should check out a few of your other questions to see how other people debunk this conspiracy. This is the third time you have attempted to mislead people.
2006-10-20 01:12:27 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 4⤋
Im to busy to read the piece besides you can't change the past that was 2004
2006-10-20 01:47:17 · answer #7 · answered by dumpllin 5 · 0⤊ 5⤋
I read it and found not one real fact in it. Sorry.
2006-10-20 01:22:10 · answer #8 · answered by bildymooner 6 · 1⤊ 5⤋
money moneymoney
2006-10-20 01:05:41 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 4⤋