Are the libs capable of giving examples of pre-Irving-Kristol "paleocons"?

Answer 1

Yes.

Answer 2

I see this trend continuing. Insofar as Neo Conservatives hating America I knew a generalization had to be included with the Cut and Paste.

Here the deal Skippy. We Neo Cons beleive in world wide democracy in action. We don't harbor illusions about how difficult it will be to achieve this but the results are worth the effort. Note that every major conflit in the 20th century involved some sort of Fascism or Monarchy involved in a strategic ploy to "take over the world", Ho Chi Minh included. The defense and impementation fo democracy is the only way to acheive the world peace so desired by the left.

Answer 3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism

ok, here's some facts from Wikipedia...a very standard souce...not hidden away where where only intellectuals will find it:

Paleoconservative intellectuals
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The coalition
Paleoconservatives come from all walks of life, including Evangelical Christians, Calvinists, traditionalist Catholics, libertarian individualists, Midwestern agrarians, Reagan Democrats, and southern conservatives. Other contemporary luminaries include Donald Livingston, a Professor of Philosophy at Emory and corresponding editor for Chronicles[80]; Paul Craig Roberts, an attorney and former Reagan administration Treasury official; commentator Joseph Sobran, a columnist and contributing editor for Chronicles[81]; novelist and essayist Chilton Williamson, senior editor for books at Chronicles[82]; classicist Thomas Fleming, editor of Chronicles[83]; and historian Clyde N. Wilson, long-time contributing editor for Chronicles[84]. Another prominent paleoconservative, Theodore Pappas[22], is the current executive editor of Encyclopædia Britannica[23].

Paleoconservatism is unusual in that it seeks to be both noble and populist at the same time.[85] For example, Thomas Fleming, who urges his readers to study classical philosophy and Christianity's Church Fathers, salutes Middle America thus:

A patriot loves his nation and his people. Neoconservatives hate the real America. At best, we represent a four-hour delay between appointments in New York and Los Angeles; at worst, we are pitchfork-wielding rednecks, fundamentalists, kukluxers, wobblies, and Coughlinites who prefer reruns of The A-Team to reruns of Friends. We buy our clothes at Marshall's instead of Saks or Brooks Brothers. We still eat fried chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy for Sunday dinner, and we drink tap water, for goodness sake, not Evian..."[86]

The movement combines disparate people and ideas that might seem incompatible in another context.[24] Such diversity of thought echoes the paleo opposition to ideology and political rationalism, reflecting the influence of thinkers like Russell Kirk[87] and Michael Oakeshott.[88]

In addition, while paleoconservatism is not a doctrinal movement, supporters typically sympathize with the Christian Right's attacks on moral relativism, big government and secular humanism, even as they complain that the movement is obsessed with the Middle East and the Republican Party's short-term goals. Pat Buchanan argues that a good politician must "defend the moral order rooted in the Old and New Testament and Natural Law" -- and that "the deepest problems in our society are not economic or political, but moral.[89] On the other hand, Samuel Francis complained that the "Religious Right" focuses on certain social issues and neglects other civilizational crises. [90]

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The Kirkian legacy
Russell Kirk is a key figure, in that several of his books present an outline of a pervasive Anglo-American conservative tradition that exists despite many other distinctions. His own career stretched long enough to for him to defend Robert Taft in the 1950s, write for National Review during the Cold War, criticize neoconservatism in the 1980s, and give speeches supporting Buchanan in 1992. One neoconservative writer, Dan Himmelfarb, even refers to Kirk's The Conservative Mind as "the seminal work of paleoconservatism," even though it was first published in 1953.[91

Answer 4

Roosevelt, Taft....they were all republicans before Irving Kristol. (they were actually more liberal then as well)
Roosevelt was a great conservationist--Theodore Roosevelt that is.