What do you think of this solution?

Question

Alright first I want to tell you im not gay, and im not too thrilled about gay marriage. And I belive in God. But as far as hating gay people go, im not thrilled about that either. But as far as being gay goes I don't like that. I don't have a problem with the person. But the gay part is what I have a problem with. Lets stop acting like everyone don't see what's so disgusting about it. Because it is seen. So what do you think of this solution? The Government should not have any say in marriage what-so-ever. All Christian gay people should take thair marriage up with the church. But all atheist or other religion should get married in federal places not religous places. Don't drag a religion into something that's against thair moral's. You say if you love eachother then you deserve eachother. Well It's a know fact that Humans love the all wrong things. Some people love killing other people, but that don't make it right. Im not attacking you. I just want to see what do you think.

Answer 1

I agree with your solution. It is none of the government's business what it's citizens do, as long as they're not harming anyone else. I am an atheist myself, but I believe firmly in freedom of religion, therefore I believe that any religious groups that oppose gay marriage should not be forced to ordain such unions if they don't want to. It should be up to the individual churches to decided whether they will or not.

Answer 2

While I don't like your opinions, it's nice to see someone with a different opinion asking an actual question instead of bashing.

As for my background, I'm a monogamous queer genderqueer pagan woman. Just thought I'd start with that to give an idea of where my views are coming from.

As for the idea of the federal government getting into the marriage issue, I don't think they should limit anyone's choice on who to "marry."

Ideas on long-term relationships have varied and changed a lot over the past centuries. Who really is to say what a marriage specifically is? According to some it is a legal contract, often times done for political or financial reasons and not for love. To others it is a sign of long-term dedication to their partner, or partners in the case of polygamists. Then there are similar things which should carry the same weight that mean similar things, like handfasting. Handfastings were also sometimes a long-term dedication to another person. There are so many views on what a marriage is that it would be impossible for the federal government to limit a person's choices in partners without encroaching on someone's beliefs.

Also, there are two kinds of marriage. There's the ceremony that's done and there's also the marriage certificate and contract and all that. I do agree that no organization should have to perform a marriage that goes against their beliefs. That's taking away their freedom to express their religion. There should not be limits on who can enter into a marriage though. To do that would encroach on someone's beliefs.

Also, there's the benefits tied to a marriage contract. There's over 1,000 that are cited that GLBT people often are unable to receive because they are in a same-sex relationship. Even with power of attorney and other documents people aren't safe. That also brings up another issue. If a man and a woman marry and have a kid, and then the man becomes a woman, does that mean that the child should have to lay in bed every night worried that because of their parents relationship, they may be taken from the only home they know? Should they have to worry about if they'll have a roof over their head the next day if one of their parents dies? I don't think a 9 year old should have to worry about things like that. That's pretty damaging to a young mind.

Then there's also the idea of male and female. Many people don't put themselves into those narrow categories, so who do they marry? Nobody? Or have they found a loophole that allows them to marry anybody? What exactly do we determine to be male and female? If a woman wears pants instead of skirts and dresses, does that mean she's now considered a man? If a man becomes a "Mr. Mom" and stays home to raise the children is he considered a woman? What if someone is born intersexed? What do we classify them as? People are breaking away from gender norms and the whole two gender system. Why make legislation that's already outdated before it's even signed into law? All it creates then is unnecessary headaches for people and the government.

Answer 3

I "think" that your opinion is just that, YOUR opinion. There is nothing disgusting about being gay. There isn't anything out there that is intended to force any Church to perform any marriage they do not agree with but there are plenty of legitimate Churches that will perform the ceremony. And yes, comparing my love of my other half-with others that "love" to kill other human beings IS an attack.

Answer 4

I think your "solution" quite frankly, sucks! Or is that, "Blows?"

Anyway...It's terrible.

First off you contradicted yourself when you said the Govt should get out of all marriage then you suggested that "But all atheist or other religion should get married in federal places not religious places."

You suggestion is also EXTREMELY discriminatory against people's of other faiths than YOUR OWN. You assume that Gays aren't already BLESSED by SEVERAL churches and your complete contradiction of stating anyone who's an atheist should be married in a "federal" place, but that the GOVT should get out of marriage.
How exactly are those married in "FEDERAL" places to be married if the GOVT doesn't recognize it? The GOVT would HAVE to recognize what they govern....DUH.

Your blatant disregard for ANYONE of another faith other than your own is simply disgusting.

There are SEVERAL churches and Faiths who ALREADY recognize and ordain gay unions!

GET OVER IT!

So what if it's not for YOU....So...don't marry a gay man/woman. DUH!
Don't attend their marriages/weddings.
Don't socialize with them if you don't like them.
Just walk away and find your own group of like minded nuts.

Answer 5

What does believing in God have to do with your question??? I would love to hear what is so "disgusting" about being gay. Is it because I don't "conform" to your image of what a marriage should be?? Get over yourself. We want Equal Rights- nothing more, and nothing less.

Answer 6

Married straight couples have long asserted their superiority over single people of all orientations. In some places, they now want to fully codify and otherwise legalize the legitimacy of their marital status.

I can see your point. And I for one would never support any proposed law that sought to set married straight people up on a pedestal over those who happen to be never-married or divorced, no matter what their orientations were. For crying out loud, we've had to put up with that sort of institutionalized discrimination for years now in churches and synagogues. Why should we have to put up with it now legally and philosophically in the secular world?

Answer 7

WELL, I am GAY.

If I understand your solution, then I must say that in principle I like it VERY much.

I do not have anything against churches, or hate them. I am simply not wanted by any of them (As long as I am a PRACTICING homosexual).

I do not want the state to FORCE a church to marry me. I do however want the state to allow me to have a MARRIAGE, and not some different type of union.

Answer 8

I think that you are a very very sad Christian. I have some Jesus Treats. Would you like some? Just leave gay people alone.

Answer 9

I don't know what your solution was...But I am ok with the Christian opposing gay marriages, afterall the teachings are not even pratical and are way off from the present day anyways.

Answer 10

no matter how you try to word it (horrid spelling and all), you're still being insulting and prejudice. why don't you just worry about your own life and quit passing judgment on others.....something that's God's privilege, not yours! God created and loves us all...and he makes no mistakes!