Cons, Now that Habeas Corpus is gone, does anyone think Bush is living up to his oath of office?

Question

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/nation/15786466.htm?source=rss&channel=cctimes_nation

Presidential oath of office: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

apparently some people don't agree with this:

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

I think you are traitors for saying you will give up constitutional rights.

How does this affect me? the president is taking away our constitutional rights. How does that not affect me? Yeah, my life will probably not change, but the country and freedoms I love are going away. I want a free US.

How will we know if they are truly the enemy if there is not trial? And only one person actually answered the question, which was about his oath. Thank you to the person who did. the rest of you sure talk big for not even understanding a simple question.

Answer 1

Many conservatives are under the impression it does not affect them in any way. I would agree that the ramifications of it will probably be gradual. That is the way basic rights are usually taken away. A little at a time, bit by bit, eating away at the edges until one day you look up and notice things aren't quite the same as they used to be. This is what libs are trying to get through to cons. But they are so busy defending the indefensible with shrill slogans and backbiting, they refuse to see it for what it is. Tyranny in the guise of protection.

Answer 2

It may not effect us all now but I can for sure tell you its a step in the wrong direction.
It has potential to hurt many innocents. The future will tell.
People clearly don't realize what a fundamental change it is about who we are as a country. What happened yesterday changed us. And I'm not too sure we're gonna change back anytime soon. Whatever you people do and say be carefull. US citizen or not — you could be declared an enemy combatant, lock you up and throw away the key without a chance to prove your innocence in a court of law. In other words, every thing the Founding Fathers fought the British empire to free themselves of was reversed and nullified with the stroke of a pen, all under the guise of the War on Terror. Does Stalin ring a bell? How about Gestapo.

Answer 3

If I may be so bold as to quote the article you so kindly hyperlinked for our perusal:

"Although the debate about the law focused on trials at Guantanamo Bay, it also takes away the right to go to court for immigrants and non-citizens in the United States -- including more than 12 million permanent residents -- if they are declared "unlawful enemy combatants."

No one has suggested the Bush administration plans to use its newly won power to round up large numbers of immigrants."

Are you a non-citizen?
Do you have contacts with known terrorist suspects?

If you answered yes to both of the above, be afraid, be very afraid.

If you answered no to either both of the above questions, or just to the later, then you have nothing to worry about.

Answer 4

But Rush said today that it was ok to take away our freedoms and if Rush says it is ok then it is ok. Because Rush would not lie to us would he. Oh Bush's oath of office I will call in tomorrow and ask him, he will tell me what to think. I have always wanted to say ditto to Rush anyway this is my chance. Thank you for letting me call Rush and get the real lowdown on the presidential oath.

Answer 5

The preferrred court docket overruled the argument that the structure or rights of habeas corpus do no longer be conscious in Rasul v. Bush. Civil rights notwithstanding, might want to correctly be suspended in time of conflict, and Habeas corpus pertains to criminal proceedings and not in any respect to "enemy warring parties," who might want to correctly be detained for the period of "the conflict" See Padilla. Al Mari replaced into no longer an enemy combatant because he replaced into stuck in the U. S. and not in any respect somewhat fought. In Al Mari v. Wright The court docket held that "because Congress has no longer empowered the President to subject civilian alien terrorists interior of u . s . a . of america to indefinite military detention... we want no longer, and do not, ensure even if any such provide of authority might want to violate the structure. particularly, we in basic terms carry that the structure does no longer provide the President performing on my own with this authority". The regulation now promises sufficient alleviation for detainees and until eventually all provisions for judicial evaluation are exhausted, the talk isn't ripe for preferrred court docket evaluation. yet see Justices Stevens and Kennedy's dissent in Boumedienne. exciting project, i am going to ought to study it extra later.

Answer 6

Where were all the bleeding hearts the day after 9/11?

Answer 7

Why ask the Con(artist)s. They don't know have a clue about which constititutional rights have been violated by the Bush Administration.

Answer 8

we haven't changed anything ! we closed a loophole and amended the constitution! fyi did you know that veit nam,germany,north korea never signed the geneva convention? of coarse you didn't and now that you are lost i'll explain to you why this is significant! we never tortured them or any pow ! we changed the law to include terrorists who wear no uniforms,these rights you claim you loss is a leftist propaganda to make you think you have? it doesn't pertain to us citizens at all!

Answer 9

He is protecting my life with this law. This law in no way will affect me nor you unless you decide to help the terrorist/become one. I value my life over my freedoms and you should too. THIS WILL NOT AFFECT EVERYDAY AMERICANS.

Quit complaining and move on with life.

Answer 10

get your facts straight..enemy combatants fall under MILITARY LAW...not civilian and if you think there the same talk to any enlisted man.