Recently at Ohio State on football Saturdays, undercover cops walk onto the porch of every house that has people drinking on the porch. They then ID everyone and take those under 21 to jail. Are we required to let them on our porch? I'm pretty sure they arn't allowed in our house unless we let them in, but I'm unsure about the porch. Does anybody know how I can find this out or maybe even know one way or another?
2006-10-17 06:07:23 · 11 answers · asked by Andrew 1 in News & Events ➔ Other - News & Events
Recently at Ohio State on football Saturdays, undercover cops walk onto the porch of every house that has people drinking on the porch. They quickly flash their badges usually hiding under their shirts on a necklace before walking onto the porch. They then ID everyone and take those under 21 to jail. Are we required to let them on our porch? I'm pretty sure they arn't allowed in our house unless we let them in, but I'm unsure about the porch. Does anybody know how I can find this out or maybe even know one way or another? Also, this is a weekly thing. They have came on our porch and asked for ID 3 home games in a row now. Only the first week did they find anyone, and that was someone on the sidewalk in front of our porch.
2006-10-17 06:55:40 · update #1
no one can make you show your id without proper credentials and they must have just cause' to break in, such as someone seeing a violent act thru window and they must be sure you committed a crime.
when drinking in house there are no witnesses. drinking on porch, all the neighbors can report you ifyou are underage.
if you have any doubt as to the officers' true identity. call the police station and give them the badge number and squad number, befiore you let them in. i think they must have a search warrant to even id you in your own home.
in cases of holding after-hours or underage drinking/drugging parties where people are leaving drunk on public street, esp in a dry town, the whole bunch of you can be raided.
now on the road in a car or walking on public streets is different. they can id you. in no case do you have to answer questions or make statements without a lawyer present. if you are in a vehicle or home where drugs or illegal weapons are found, you can be arrested even if the items do not belong to you.
if your rights are violated, pull up 'aclj'-american center for law and justice and ask for help.
2006-10-17 06:14:39 · answer #1 · answered by the_shepherd's_child 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
you'd have to check the local laws, but generally speaking...yes they can. Police must identify themselves (generally) and provide identification if requested. They also have to have "probable cause". Your porch is outside, so is considered to be a public area and doesn't require a search warrant. If there are people drinking, and some people look under 21, then they've met "probable cause".
2006-10-17 06:33:22 · answer #2 · answered by Answerman 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
some states have rules that say the police could desire to be seen from maximum of ft away in the event that they are working radar or the like. some enable them to thoroughly cover. Any sworn officer can pull you over, yet an extremely undercover cop in all probability does no longer make a site visitors stop if it meant probably blowing his conceal. An unmarked automobile, can pull you over, yet they are likely to be supervisors or detectives and maximum probable does no longer be manning a roadblock. in basic terms know warning, in case you're pulled over by using an unmarked automobile, it is completely suitable to pass away your window up and doors locked till you spot a badge. If doubtful, call the close by police and ask for verification of the badge variety in the previous you open your window.
2016-10-19 21:19:52 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The new addendums that have been added to the Patriot Act have local police raiding ordinary citizen's homes without a search warrant. Yes, and this includes EVERY American, for NO good reason.
2006-10-17 06:53:24 · answer #4 · answered by Big Bear 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
They better display a warrant.
Else someone is trespassing.
If they have evidence of a crime being committed then they have that right- a person drinking on a porch is not evidence of a crime in the act.
2006-10-17 06:19:13 · answer #5 · answered by cork 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If you are not in the house, then they can. Even if you are in the backyard, but in public view they can come back and card everyone. Wanna break the law, stay inside.
Wizzards, stop lying, give me one, just one confirmed case where they did that on purpose.
2006-10-17 07:19:46 · answer #6 · answered by Meow the cat 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As long as they have reasonable suspicion. Sounds like it's there if they are arresting people for under aged drinking.
2006-10-17 06:19:43 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I believe the general rule is if the have suspicion that an illegal activity is taking place (or in your case, there are obviously underage drinkers), then yes, they can;
2006-10-17 06:21:15 · answer #8 · answered by sweet ivy lyn 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
on your porch is out in public. If you were inside the house they would have to have just cause or a warrant.
2006-10-17 06:15:36 · answer #9 · answered by scokeman 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
They cannot come onto private property,unless a complaint has been made without a search warrant!
2006-10-17 06:16:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋