Why do people who say.....?

Question

Why is it that the people who say "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for the rest of his life" are always the ones cutting education spending?

SWAY: even if that is true, cutting spending certainly isn't going to help the situation, is it?

Why do you think they favor private schools? Is it because most of them are christian?

Thowing money at a problem never fixed anything: often true, but not always.

So taking money away is going to fix the problem???

I have an idea, let's overhaul the education system. We're not giving them any extra money to do this of course....all you need is hard work I guess.

The education system does need to be fixed, but starving it is not the answer. That strategy has but one goal, the elimination of the public school system. That would force most of the nation's children into private christian schools, ones that don't have to teach evolution or be governed by the separtion of church and state.

Answer 1

The state of education is somewhat dire, and always has been when considering we have all heard this over and over again. But, in the community I last lived, there was a local tax that was voted in at 1% by a landslide to be used only in the public school system within our community. In a city of @ 250K people, it put new computers, libraries, and playgrounds in most of the city schools in the 1st 3 years. It was also a great idea from the standpoint that it basically told people to take ownership at a local, not state or federal level, and to put your money where your mouth is. I had preached for years that I would vote in a tax hike if I could see local, and positive results in regards to the schools. I had my chance. Get your council members to start pushing the ball uphill.

Answer 2

Throwing money at a problem doesn't necessarily fix it either. That's also an easy way out. "Well, we spent a billion dollar on education, but everyone still can barely get by". Fisherman don't need a college education, they need a trade school. The public school system needs to be scrapped and rebuilt, but I'm not holding my breath. We're not spending too little, we're spending too much on bureaucracy.

Edit: It's not going to hurt it. They need to get rid of the state boards and huge committees thinking up scantron tests. That would save an enormous amount of money. Not to mention that most school is funded at the state level by property tax.

It's not starving. It's a multi-billion dollar bureaucracy. Which means if you cut off the head (which is the problem more so then the schools) then you will have billions to work with. Also, you're a bit paranoid about the private schools. The most popular private schools are Montessori, not religious. Of course, this is all just discussion. The public school system is like social security. New ideas are immediately shut down. I'm unsure why.

Answer 3

Jilian is 100% correct... I had to go to a public school that had a block scheduling plan with 4 classes a semester 3 main courses one sememster the other 3 the next... the two classes left over... were probably lunch periods... except somehow we wound up with 25 minutes to get lunch... this happened nearly 30 years after block scheduling failed in the northern states... dont even get me started on the curriculum... the teachers had to teach two lessons each class a day and were always RUSHED to keep on track, most students coudln't absorb all of the information because they still didnt understand something from the beginning of the period and the teacher could not take time to dwell on it... it was bad for the teachers as well. the curriculum was based on getting you through standardized tests, the teachers always pointed that out.

This was a SCHOOL OF EXCELLENCE with a 40% dropout rate... many kids got fed up and left... the teachers became apathetic and could only progress as the curriculim dictated or suffer... it still didnt help the average SAT score was only 950!

Also you could go an entire semester and then the summer without ever touching a math problem or graphing calculator...

the school systems are screwed!

the education is not even the slightest bit enriching... they took away all the tools a teacher had to make kids want to learn and replaced it with a mandated standardized test based curriculum.

you can tell how well it worked for me simply by obsorbing my wonderfully understated internet prose!

look at that!! i cant even spell "absorb!"

Answer 4

To sway_ii: You obviously have no knowledge whatsoever of a teacher's job and the pressures they recieve from their boss.

First of all, to speak about a group of people like they share a mind and teaching methods is not accurate.

Second of all, do not blame teachers. If you must blame someone, blame California's standards and the pressures put on schools to have high SAT scores.

I'd like to see you, sway_ii, teach a class of any grade. You'll find its not as easy as it looks. With the principal telling you to only focus on SAT scores instead of what really needs to be taught. You'd be surprised at how many restrictions teachers have. And on top of all the restrictions you have students who are in regular ed classes but function grade levels below their current grade.

On top of that, you can't teach someone who refuses to learn. Its not easy to deal with behavior problems. Its not easy to teach someone who refuses to do anything. Not all students are like this, but one is too many.

And to the actual question, I totally agree with you. One Hundred Percent. As the product of teachers. As someone who was in ASB so knows ASB's finances and as someone who grew up volunteering in varous special ed elementary school classes. I couldn't agree with you more.

Especially when you have a class where kids go to (RSP) because they need one on one help and then you have one teacher for twelve students. Its total crap.

Answer 5

Most likely, they can figure out, when people are just pretending to
fish, ever heard the term , time to fish or cut bait.

Answer 6

schools are failing the students with politically correct and liberal studies Throwing money at a problem never fixed it

Answer 7

It helps them sleep at night...its called compassionate conservatism..a warped twisted brand of Christianity

Answer 8

Because they are dimwitted, uneducated idiots that took a week and memorized that line, but they have no idea what it means.

Answer 9

you have to have qualified teachers for that,but yet they want no guidelines to teach or monitor there performance! why aren't the liberals all over this? can you say union and democratic party in one sentence? and you wonder why we are raising dumb azzes in public schools!

Answer 10

Because they believe that private education also works, and better.