it seems to me that if anyone says anything the least bit controversial about the gay and lesbian community?

Question

some get super offended and try to sum up ones beliefs and such. much like the "christian" catagory,, could this be why the two debate each other so much? do they share too many like qualities?

Answer 1

When the persist in telling you ad nauseum that you are going to hell, others think it's great fun to suggest beating you up for sport, and others come in to antagonize/lie about you for fun, then you might begin to understand. Until then, it's explaining color to a blind man.

Answer 2

Actually if it the questions were controversial I doubt there would be much offence taken, unfortunately, questions (like yours) which are by definition, just meant to insult and demean....well, that's not controversy, that's harassment. Controversial are questions such as: why shouldn't churches be made to pay taxes, given they are becoming more political? That question is controversial and in no way insults anyone involved. Now, IF you can see the difference between this question and yours, you will understand people being offended, if not, well expect more of the same.

Answer 3

Yes, religious fanatics and homos share a like quality.... Each believes that his/her way of thinking is the correct way. Many focus on the differences of the two groups rather than on their common humanity.

However, I view the religious fanatics as the oppressors and homos as the victims.

(The best example is all the religious fanatics who visit the G&L site on Yahoo Answers. If they don't like G&L, why go to that site at all?!? They seem to go there for no other reason but to attack and ridicule.)

Many times, the comments of the religious fanatics are hateful, which is in opposition to Christ's message to love and accept all peoples. Many times, the comments of the homos are reverse bigotry, wherein they say that ALL religious people are homophobic.

Sort of like women who think all men are sexist. Or, blacks who think all whites are racist. Or, at least until an individual proves otherwise.

It is difficult not to think that way when you have been victim of a particular bigotry your entire life.

FOOTNOTE: It is common knowledge that most gay bashers are struggling with their own feelings of homosexuality. Many openly homo people admit to having said or done similar hateful things right before they accepted this part of themselves.

Answer 4

No, aversion therapy, of whatever type, works no better on gays than on straights -- that in response to your squirt gun question.

As for reactions to attacks -- you will find that many members of any routinely attacked minority react strongly to attacks -- and why shouldn't they? I just met a young man, 19 now, who was working with a contractor on our house -- whose mother threw him out the 3rd story window when he was a child and she realized that he was gay... That sort of behavior is encouraged by attacks, as was the death of blessed Matthew Shepard.

Some of us, btw, are from ACCEPTING churches, and are both gay and Christian. By no stretch of the imagination are all Christians bigots, only about 2/3rds of Protestants and less than that Catholics, at least in the United States.

Regards,

Reynolds C. Jones
Schenectady, NY
http://www.rebuff.org
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Answer 5

Why is it that you are asking these questions? To get people started on bashing us more? What is wrong with this picture? Are you trying to start more trouble here? If you went to a parade with us you would know more about us, we are not as bad as what some people make us out to be. Now that you have a comment on here about us being sexual deviants I hope you are happy enough to just go away, that is why we get pissed off.

Answer 6

That is a very astute observation. It seems to be, generally, that even the slightest bit of criticism directed towards gay people is met with hostility and resentment. A simple example is a movie critic not giving Brokeback Mountain a glowing review being accused of homophobia and being "anti gay" when he simply didnt care for the movie. Christians on the other hand, in my observation, do not generally react that way. Some gay groups are down right militant in their reactions to criticism.

Answer 7

No, not as such.

The problem isn't so much small insults but wide spread generalizations of an entire group of people who still don't have a fully equal legal leg.
Religious people's as long as they're straight, have ALWAYS enjoyed rights, protections and benefits that they gay community has NEVER had access to.

It's more often likened to racial struggles because just as Blacks, the Gay Community is indeed kept out of mainstream society out of ignorance, hate and fear. Our struggles are indeed similar in that we are denied access to the same rights, protections and benefits of every other citizen simply because we're seen as 'different.'
For blacks it's the color of their skin, for us, who we love.

For decades blacks were told they weren't capable of rational thought or weren't able to have emotionally intimate relationships. That they were inferior because of the color of their skin.
The gay community has been fighting the generalization that we're all mentally disturbed, can't form emotional bonds with our partners and are inferior because of whom we love!

No, we weren't kept as slaves, but we WERE victims just as the Jews of Hilter's nightmare!

The pink triangle we now where as a symbol of pride reminds us of our struggles. It was instituted by the Nazis to ID homosexuals.
The jews were made to wear a yellow six pointed star, likened to the Star Of David. Gays were forced to wear a Pink triangle to show that we were LESS worthy than even Jews.
We were rounded up along with the Jews, we were put into concentration camps and gassed JUST LIKE THE JEWS!
We suffered along with our Jewish brothers and sisters.


But we have won a few battles along they way.
The APA REMOVED all sexualities from their lexicon of disorders back in 1973. Being homosexual is NOT a mental disorder nor a disease. It can't be "caught", it can't be "taught" and it can't be "cured" because there's nothing wrong with two CONCENTING ADULTS loving each other.

Religions still attempt to continue the social denial or our LEGAL rights simply because of a few (six in all) passages in their Bible that they have mistranslated to say that being gay is somehow a sin.
When they are reminded that our LAWS are NOT based upon THEIR Bible, they get all defensive and start calling us names.

If we dare to defend ourselves we're beaten, harassed and even MURDERED.

Yes, we are defensive, we have a damned good right to be!

Answer 8

There's a fine line between controversial statements and outright bigotry, and most of the people having a problem with gays have fallen into the last category.

Answer 9

it's my OPINION (yes, i do have a shift key) that some who consider themselves "christian" or "gay and lesbian" feel the need to be persecuted and defend themselves to anyone and everyone that SEEMS to have a viewpoint different from theirs, or they feel is persecuting them. i think that's in order to validate to themselves that their belief system or sexual preference is correct, which is really beside the point depending on who you choose to associate with as friends. of course, that has more to do with self esteem than an actual belief system or lifestyle. like you say, i'm always appreciative when such people do enlighten me about my beliefs, and usually tell me more about myself than even i know.

Answer 10

religion and sexuality are tow of the most debate subjects to this day so of course we are going to be more sensitive. Unfortunately that will never change unless there is "world peace" and the way things are going these days that idea just gets further and further away

Answer 11

Wow you really like to piss people off don't you?
You just managed to piss off two diametrically opposed groups of people.

Lets say for argument that I stomped your toe really bad, then IndyT comes up and stomps your toe really bad (no offense Indy I just was using an example and would never infer you would deliberately cause another person's pain.) Then lets say stale poot comes by and barely touches your toe. Well chances are you would already be sore from all the toe stomping and would react as thought he had stomped your toe as well.


I hope that my little analogy helped you to see things clearer.
Have a blessed toe stomp free day.
Randy

I am g0y, I am bisexual, I am Christian.