Hey Liberals: Re: abortion..?

Question

If it's a woman's right to do to her own body what she chooses, why the hell does the law tell me I have to wear a motorcycle helmet in California?

SUALK: GREAT ANSWER you idiot! Thanks for proving my point about liberals!

MORDENT: What about the unborn child's "freedom"?

HARBORING THOUGHTS: So now the term "liberals" is considered offensive? Man, you p.c. types are out of control. Pretty soon the English language will consist of only four or five acceptable words, but hey, good luck with that...

SAINT TOAD: We all know what the law is, the question here is about ethics. I wear a helmet because my government demands that I do. I do not advocate abortion in spite of the fact that our government allows us to.

Answer 1

The other side of your statement : How is it that a woman is choosing what to do with "her own body" when it is HER CHILDS body that is being ripped apart, mutilated and thrown into the garbage where rats and stray dogs can feed off of it?
Liberals dont like to argue the gruesome reality of abortion. It is such a horrific act, abortion, that if you truly say you are Pro Choice, you are saying, "sure, I think its OK for women to have their child slaughtered in the name of pure selfishness" NINETY SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT of abortions, throughout all 9 months of pregnancy are for purely elective reasons, which defeats the liberals rape/incest and life of the mother arguments.

Answer 2

The woman's right is to make her own moral decision, not be told by government what the correct moral decision should be. I can see where abortion should not be funded by government, but it should not be banned.

Likewise, should you choose not to wear your helmet , have a crash, and enter a vegetative state, government should not be required to pay medicaid or medicare or social security to cover the expenses, right? You're on your own, personal responsibility, right?

If you feel so strongly about the helmet law, shut up and pay the tickets; if I feel so strongly about the abortion law I will make the effort to help women go out of state or out of the country for legal abortions should it come to that.

Funny, I am the liberal, but here I am sounding like a "less government" person, which in the old days were called conservatives. Go figure.

Answer 3

Because not wearing a motorcycle helmet affects other people, and the rules of freedom are you're allowed to do whatever you want so long as it doesn't affect the freedom of others. If you were hit and you fell off your bike and died (as you'd be very likely to do, even at low speeds) then whoever hit you could be charged with manslaughter - despite the fact that you should have worn a helmet cause it's just plain stupid not to.

The problem for conservatives lies in the fact that a foetus is not legally viewed as a person until 28 weeks (in the UK at least, not sure about the US) This is because it starts off as a collection of cells - just like any other human tissue, and (when the law was written) was very unlikely to survive birth at 28 weeks. The 'a woman can do to her body what she likes' thing applies because she isn't affecting other PEOPLE'S freedom, because the foetus is not viewed as a person. If you wanted to change that you'd have to get the foetus recognised as a person earlier, or even at conception.

Answer 4

It's because the state legislatures are owned by insurance companies. The insurance companies are tired of paying out 100's of millions to people because they don't wear a helmet, so they pay 10's of millions to the legislatures to pass the helmet laws.

Since insurance has nothing to do with abortions, and because the Supreme Court has made a ruling, abortions are legal.

BTW, the helmet laws can be challenged to the Supreme Court as well, there just needs to be a test case or two or hundred.

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Answer 5

The law really states that she can get an abortion if she feels her life is at risk (she needs no proof though). So thats why. Unless your saying wearing a helmet may put you in danger.

Answer 6

Do you follow the law or not? Abortion is legal, so it is a woman's right to get one. It is not your right to disobey the law and not wear a motorcycle helmet. Unless you are following Bush's example of 'legal interpretation'. Perhaps, like him, you feel the laws don't apply to you.

Answer 7

in the medical field we call motorcycle riders Organ donors, helmet or no helmet your safety is questionable anyway. the laws are just trying to protect you as much as they can, and where are the NeoCons less government in this issue? Oh yeah that only applies to Corporations!

Answer 8

You are right. I don't know the law now, but years ago Nevada law said only that you had to wear a helmet - it didn't say you had to wear it on your head, Hence, you'd see a people with helmets strapped to their knees, etc.

I think that choice - for adults deciding for themselves - should be left to the individual.

Answer 9

You are mixing apples and oranges. Operating a motor vehicle is a privilege not a right. Traffic laws must be obeyed or you lose your privilege.

Sounds like another wild stab at the Democrats by uninformed dittoheads, who have not convinced me of their moral superiority one bit.

Answer 10

Hey S.A. why the anger? Can you discuss something without name calling? Although I personally would not choose abortion myself because of religious beliefs. I believe in separation between church and state and I should not have the right to impose my religious beliefs on others.