Are Muslims deliberately beligerent! OK i cant spell but these people are going too far. Best recruitment adverts for BNP is themselves.
2006-10-13 00:11:27 · 40 answers · asked by bootycreord 3 in Politics & Government ➔ Other - Politics & Government
Jesus, Mary and Joseph!
Once again, for the lot of them that don't quite get it, A Muslim woman is NOT required by her religion to cover her face with a veil! It was and is a traditional dress in some countries and cultures, however she doesn't live in that country any longer, does she? Don't like it? Sod off!!!
She's being deliberately belligerent and I'd have her removed from her position so fast, her head would spin off.
2006-10-13 00:20:29 · answer #1 · answered by auld mom 4 · 6⤊ 0⤋
She should have taken it off. How can anyone expect to be able to effectively communicate with children while their face is concealed. 40% of communication is done through facial expression not to mention the fact that having something over your mouth would make it more difficult for young children to understand what your are saying.
The reasons to remove it has nothing at all to do with religion so all you fools going on about christians and crucifix etc, stop and think before you type. A crucifix does not affect your abillity to teach, a veil does.
Teachers are there to do a job and they should not let their religious/cultural beliefs get in the way of that.
The last thing that should be happening is people from either side letting religious arguement creap into our schools.
To be honest I'm getting a bit sick to effing death of Muslims, christains, Jews etc. Blind faith is the refuge of the weak minded. Anyone who believes something without any evidence whatsoever is in my opinion daft. So stop forcing your bloody views on the rest of us. The Muslim council of Britian don't have a problem with women taking their veils off to teach so why did she? I suspect she was trying to make a point because veils had been in the press recently. A point the in my opinion had no place being made in a school let alone a classroom.
Grow up!
2006-10-13 00:31:22 · answer #2 · answered by PETER F 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The reason given for removing the veil was:- the children found it difficult to understand the accent without seeing the lips, which is fair comment. Perhaps not a good job if you need to be able to communicate on every level.I think this phrase comes to mind:- "when you are in Rome, do as the Romans do". I do feel that a few other denominations/ cultures who have opted to live in England could make much more of an effort to integrate. BUT having said that, the language barrier to start with does make it very difficult. Those of us who have never tried to live in another country and adopt other peoples cultures should be aware of the difficulties to do so, when there are so many like minded fellow countrymen/women ready to support you. There is little incentive to integrate.
2006-10-13 01:28:06 · answer #3 · answered by biggi 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think that's it's unjustified. Just as the woman who was fired from British airlines for not removing her gold cross. Her argument was that if muslim women in the company can wear head scarves as work, why can't she wear her religious symbol proudly? I also believe that where she worships doesn't matter. It could be any number of coincidences. The bombers could have gotten aquainted at what happened to be one of the only mosques in the the area. And as for the schooling? Parents are free to send their children to just about any school they want. If they're unhappy with a teacher's teaching style, then it's up to them to put them in a classroom enviorment they feel is best for their kids. But truth of the matter is, most muslim women, liberal or not, believe that being veiled is a high honour in their religion. Just as freedom of speech is an honor for Americans.
2016-05-21 22:31:10 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have not seen the issue on any news report but if it is accurate the line must be drawn.
If our politicians have not got the inclination (stomach for it) the parents should withdraw the children from the School and refuse to have their children taught by that teacher.
Everyone has rights and can be offended not just Muslims, and we must exercise our rights or we will be bulldozes into submission.
From my personal opinion, I would not allow my children to be educated by a teacher that "needs to demonstrate their faith", it means they are not impartial.
Years ago this would never have been a problem, it is our weak politicians shoving multiculturalism down our throats, like it or not.
On a local level vote out your local MP and councillors on the eduction committees for allowing it.
I lived and worked in Muslim countries all my life including Saudi Arabia, I obeyed their rules, kept my mouth shut and had no trouble.
Please our politicians don't bring it to the UK.
2006-10-13 00:37:53 · answer #5 · answered by ian d 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I guess you are from the UK? Is the UK officially a secular country? If yes, then the veil questions should not be an issue - I mean people should dress in a way as not to make a statement of their denomination, unless they have a professional dress code (nuns, priests, monks - of all religions). That's my personal opinion. In Turkey veils are banned in public institutions. I suggest the EU adopts a similar law to get it over with once and for all.
PS. Other examples: I guess she will not be allowed to be one of the five wives of a Muslim UK citizen. As far as I know Mormons in the USA are also not allowed to have more than one wife.
2006-10-13 00:24:23 · answer #6 · answered by Eve 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Could a Scot teach in a kilt? How about a graduate teaching in a gown? A Sikh teaching in a turban? A veil would be difficult because it effects the crucial interaction between a teacher and a pupil. This no more applies to a headscarf than it would to a crucifix.
2006-10-13 01:02:03 · answer #7 · answered by lykovetos 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think the wearing of veils is utterly ridiculous, but respect her right to wear it if she wants too. Honestly it makes me uncomfortable when someone can see my face, but I can't see theirs. A bit like they have an advantage over me if that makes sense, but that is beside the point.
But as far as wearing it to teach, not so sure. Work places have dress codes - I suspect wearing a veil is not part of many dress codes, my personal view is that she should adhere to the dress code of her workplace and take off the veil, especially as she is teaching children and there is no 'sexual threat' from them. If she is worried about other male teachers seeing her unveiled, then I am sure there are ways around it, and she could re-veil when they are present.
Tough question - usually with religious beliefs it is easy to live and let live, but the wearing of habib is so in your face and fundamental to many muslims that it is hard to ignore and is causing all sorts of problems in a multi cultural society.
2006-10-13 00:26:35 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
As a christian (Church of Scotland) and I like to think a Humanitarian I am somewhat appalled by this whole episode, morally she should remove her veil when in the classroom teaching the children, it is not on religious grounds that she is wearing the veil in class, I feel she is being deliberately provocative and the classroom is not the place to be making a political statement, we should all remember that our children are the future, we should be teaching them tolerance and the understanding of others, how is this being shown by the very person teaching them, she is surely only thinking of herself, children NEED to see your face to feel reassured and secure, in most of the books that I have read with my children the bad guys always cover there faces so you only see there eyes. In stead of making barriers for each other lets try breaking a few down and try compromise, it would not offend her God or Religion to have used her discretion and to remove her veil, yes be proud of who you are and proud of your beliefs but temper this with understanding, respect and compassion for others.
2006-10-13 01:17:16 · answer #9 · answered by Goz 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The veil is not part of Islamic faith and Islamic Scholars have announced that the teacher was in the wrong. I can't ware a baseball cap to work in a school, or a pink PVC top with my nipples showing. People have to ware appropriate clothing in the workplace, especially schools, so this teacher is very much in the wrong. Anyone trying to defend her is naive and stupid.
2006-10-13 00:31:56 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋