If the pope says that he was never a nazi how come he took an oath to ein reich ein volk ein fuhrer?

Question

or is an oath only an oath when taken by a nazi and to be ignored in order to become pope.Seig HEIL BENEDICTUS

and before the apologists start membership of the hitler Jugend was not compulsory nor was party membership.

so dunrobin you are saying he was a coward and a deserter as well .

remember this is gods rottweiler who decided to protect all the paedophile preists there is no honour in the present pontiff

IMACATHOL ,so am I and have been for 51 years ,Ialso did some research and found that josef mengele avoided the allies the same way ratzinger escaped the nazis Ido not believe in the coincidence theory .This paedo protector should never have been elected pope.

Answer 1

I wouldn't be surprised if that was true. I was very unhappy when the Vatican chose that whiter than white miscreant to represent the Catholic Church. I can bet most Catholics are not nearly as white as he.

(for the record, I would be categorized as white, so this is not at all sour grapes, I just think a representative should be representative of the people he represents)

Answer 2

The Pope is not and never has been a Nazi. He unfortunately was born and grew up in a country ruled by the Nazi party.

Do you think that every draftee in the Nazi German Army was a Nazi? If you do then you are very naive.

Just hope and pray that you do not have to make a decision to be executed or live and fight for a government in which you do not believe.

I know of some US soldiers that joined up eagerly to fight in Afghanistan after the World Trade Center attack. But now they have to fight in Iraq, a war that they do not think is just.

You and I live in a very different world that the Pope did in 1930s and 1940s Germany. I suggest you do not be so quick to judge others.

With love in Christ.

Answer 3

Because you didn't really have a choice back then. Membership of the Hitler Jungend, even if not compulsory, was the only way to keep yourself and your family out of trouble . With all the persecution around, drawing attention to yourself by refusing to join would have abeen a VERY bad idea - would likely have earned you and your family a one way ticket to Auschwitz.

Plus many Germans who were members sof the Nazi party didn't even fully comprehend what it stood for or what Hitler's intentions were. Most Germans had no idea about the existence of the Death camps. Much less a bunch of kids who were just being good German boys and girls and joining the Hitler Jungend like their schoolteachers and superiors told them to.

Answer 4

All young ones have been compelled to connect the Hitler youthful human beings till now and through the conflict. people who refused chanced on existence extremely perplexing and confronted unsightly repercussions. Later, because of fact the conflict stepped forward, youthful men as youthful as 15 have been drafted into the German forces. one ingredient to undergo in ideas, no longer all Germans have been Nazis, even those interior the Hitler youthful human beings or the army. it quite is a uncomplicated false impression. that is like saying all individuals of the american Forces are Republicans. The Nazis have been a political corporation.

Answer 5

You're a fool. He was declared a member of the Hitler Youth as all Germans were when they reached a certain age, and at the end of the war he was conscripted to man an anti-aircraft gun but went AWOL - that shows how much he love he had for the Nazi regime.

Answer 6

unfortunately a child his age at the time living in Germany would have had no choice but to join the Nazi children, his country was at war and if old another he may have had to fight for his country. but you must remember that the Nazi's where a political group not a country and he may not have been happy with that group.
at the moment we live under a labour government in Britain that does not make everyone a labour supporter.
I am not a catholic but I don't think he should be judged for something out of his control

Answer 7

Because he was forced into doing it (and was very young at the time anyway), this is not the same as a free choice - just like the way hostages in Iraq had to say they sympathised with their terrorist captors - it didn't mean they agreed, just that they didn't want to die and didn't see how it would help anyone if they did die. We can't judge unless we have been put in a similar situation - i would probably have done the same thing in the circumstances.

Answer 8

he was in the nazi youth no thats a little different than being a nazi and it was like 60years ago im a little more worried about the the nazi threat we are encuring at the minute the islamic funda"mental"ists cant understand how we dont learn our lesson they say history repeats itself.

Answer 9

I have personal experience someone of approximately the same age as Pope Benedict XVI. I have also done a bit of research on the results of the terms of reparations imposed on Germany as a result of the Great War, and the Weimar Republic which preceded Nazi Germany. The effect of the reparartions was devastating on the German people, and yes, in times of despair, a society looks for any leader than can release them from their burdens.

No, there really wasn't much choice if one wished to live.

My aunt(God Rest Her Soul), was approximately the same age as Pope Benedict. Her family was a VERY prominent family in Germany. There was very little choice when you had a totalitarian regime based on a cult of personality. Her father was forced into the Nazi Party, because he had no choice unless he wanted to leave his wife and children as orphans or subject to revile by some in the community.

He was a surgeon, and was drafted into the German Army and the Nazi Party, and attended to the physical needs of German officers. Many of my aunt's schoolmates were forced into slavery. Fortunately, although she was tall and fair, she had brown hair. Nevertheless, due to her social position, she was quite well educated.

The depredations of the Nazi Regime during her youth caused her to be adamantly opposed to Nazis and Hitler. She was unable to rationalize how difficult life was during the Weimar Republic and the turn which caused a minority of Germans to embrace Nazism. However, due to the police state, and her youth, she was unable to oppose a few violent representatives of a totalitarian state.

Nearly everyone in Germany either feared the Nazis except for the few which embraced them. Remember, before Hitler seized power, his Nation Socialist Party only held six percent of popular support. I am reminded of an old song which included the lines something like "you can't talk to a man, when he doesn't want to understand" and "you can't talk to a man, with a shotgun in his hand".

The Nazi regime was to the Germans a brutal and violent one. At the end of the book 1984, which was written in 1948 as a warning against totalitarian regimes, poor Winston was completely beaten down, and came to the conclusion, "I love Big Brother".



There is no evidence that Ratzinger was active in the Hitler Youth, beyond his mandatory membership. Which is in itself a bit telling, especially to anyone who has ever worked with young people. We have a difficult time encouraging young people to participate in youth organizations in a free society, so it is easy to imagine what an act of rebellion it was for Ratzinger to be inactive in the youth society of a totalitarian state. Especially when the town knew where his family and friends lived.

Mandatory military service was required in Germany in 1943. It still was in 1970, except it was called mandatory governmental service. Ratzinger never distinguished himself as a soldier, and was assigned to a position where he could do the least damage to the German war effort.

My uncle was stationed in Germany during WWII, and married my aunt. Her family disapproved, and she had little contact with them until nearly 50 years later, although they remained in the same town in Germany, where my uncle was stationed. This disapproval was partly because she married an American soldier, but also because he was an enlisted man.

In the late sixties, my aunt and uncle became quite inspired to return to the states, because their son was approaching his 16th birthday, when he would have been forced into national service. Ultimately, my uncle accepted two or three reductions in rank in order to be re-assigned to the states, to avoid my cousin's being forced into National Service.

I honestly believe the depredations of the Nazis on the German peoples caused my aunt to be strongly opposed to Hitler and his henchmen and Nazism, although she, like almost everyone else, loved her community she was born and raised in.

I believe that Pope Benedict XVI has also been acting throughout his adult life as one opposed to oppression and totalitarianism. I believe these actions are a result of his personal experience with Nazism, and an intellectual and emotional rejection of the principles of Nazism.

My neighbor was recently in attendance at an inter-faith pilgrimage, including Jews and Catholics, to Israel as a member of her Catholic Church. This pilgrimage is evidence of the Catholic Church reaching out in inter-faith dialog.

Unfortunately, the group landed at Tel Aviv a day before Lebanon attacked Israel.

You will not convince very many that Pope Benedict has Nazi-sympathies, unless they are unwilling or unable to do the research regarding the time and place in which he grew up.

I am not a Catholic, but am just doing the best job I can to be a Christian. While I have my own flaws for which I am responsible, I simply keep an open mind and try to learn more and apply critical thinking to the sources.

Nor am I a Catholic apologist. But I do believe it is their responsibility to be the best people they can be, and it is not my responsibility to criticize an organization that has done much good, and provides an anchor for many people in their daily lives.

Judge not, lest you be judged.

Answer 10

No..No, you've got it wrong!..Its Ein Reich..Ein Volk..Ein Fuhrer..Und Ein Arschloch!..Ahh Sehr gut, ya?