For people that don't think God created the world how did everything start in motion?

Question

At some point in the chain no matter how small you go something had to get the ball rolling. I've never seen an object move or be created without outside force.

not sure if i made it clear but i am talking about creationism, not evolution. As in the stars, planets, etc.
Also, God is the only logical answer because he does not follow logic like planets being formed and how.

Answer 1

Maybe but apply your same logic to your GOD no wonder you've only got one point

Answer 2

I'm not an athiest but I have a question for you. If you believe that something so complex as the universe had to have an external force to "get the ball going" then by the same reasoning, would not that force need another force to get it's "ball going"?

The point here is, if the universe needs a creator then shouldn't the creator need a creator?

Second, to say that God is the only logical conclusion because he does not follow physical laws, is just as good a conclusion as saying that Tinkerbell is the only logical conclusion because she doesn't follow physical laws.

It's a bit like people who see things in the sky that defy explaination and automatically conclude that if it wasn't anything identifiable then it must have been an alien craft. Why an alien craft? Because it came from the sky? Why not say that it's a craft flown by fish people who live under the ocean? Or an plasma being?

There is no reason one should be more logical a conclusion than the other. They are all equally illogical because the person made their conclusion on the basis of speculation.

The same goes for your God conclusion.

There is nothing wrong with believe in a god of some type but assert your belief on the basis of faith and don't try to support it with faulty logic.

Answer 3

Anyone can create motion. You simply have to introduce matter to a vacuum. The vacuum will immediately cause it to expand violently creating motion, compression, and light. A vacuum is an outside force.

The problem comes in when you try to figure out where the matter came from in the first place arranged in just the right amount and configuration in order to result in everything's creation.

Electrons are not little balls of negative energy. They are an energy vapor spinning around and enclosing a nucleus. If you removed all of the space between nuclei and their electrons, people would not be visible to the naked eye, the earth would be the size of a copper BB, the sun the size of a green pea, and a large portion of what existed would be just energy vapor but the vapor would be just as it is now.

The vapor molds all things using emptiness as its clay. Thoughts are vapor. Vapor causes action. Somehow, you are allowed to control your energy vapor with your thoughts while your thoughts are comprised of vapor when the vapor in all other living things only reacts to stimuli. You can choose to hold your hand in the fire even though your vapor knows that it will burn you. No other living thing can. You choose to suffer when other things only suffer. It's like the vapor has intelligence.

Answer 4

Great question, actually a statement with no hope of a real definative "answer". I was in 7th grade and asked my grandmother (a strong baptist) "if God created the world and everything else, who created God?" , "If he is creating space and space is infinate, then is he still working on it?" basically I was in 7th grade asking for the BEGINNING. (is that spelled right? it does not look right in all caps)

Anyway, I love your question because there are very few people, I have found, who like these type of questions. I as I said before do not have a real answer for you, but I just felt like typing and telling you about my grandmother.

The assumption that God created everything, and the unwillingness to ask anything about who created God,,,
Is faith.

Wow, I think I just learned something.

Answer 5

So the universe needs a creator, you say?
So does a creator.

What you get is an infinite regress, and nothing in the way of an explanation. The universe needs a creator, who needs a creator, who needs a creator...and so on. It has no explanatory power whatsoever, and only further complicates the matter.

And no, you can't just say "well, god doesn't need a creator, because he has always existed/is defined as the prime mover/whatever". That, too, has no explanatory power. It's essentially meaningless - it's am arbitrary assertion with no justification behind it.

There's no shame in saying that you don't know how the universe came to be. It's certainly better than just making stuff up.

Answer 6

It is unknown. There are two schools of thought regarding this: Creationism and The big bang theory.

Both in my opinion reach a point where you cannot go any further. For instance:

In creationism, God created the heavens and the Earth blah blah blah.... The question then comes: Who created God?

In The Big Bang (not the porno...lol j/k), gases and molecules and atoms etc....joined at the precise moments blah blah blah universe created. The question then comes: who created gases molecules etc?

No one knows, you reach a point where no explanation can be given, or the answer if found bring up another question, i.e "who created that? then who created that? , then where did that come from etc...

Answer 7

Astrologists have documented stars being created or born in the universe - if it can happen other places in the universe, why couldn't it have happened to us. No one knows why life began here and not on jupiter, but it did. Likely it was started by something very small and when presented with the right evolutionary conditions, evolved into something else. Like the seed of a sycamore is lifeless and tiny until it has the right things present to grow. When it does, it turns out to be something quite grand. And so did we.

Answer 8

Exactly the point, there had to have been something that created it right? In evolution the say that all of a sudden the galaxy was just created like BOOM BANG like it just appeared all of a sudden and beginned. But in religious way, God is unimaginable, and humans all think there is a start and a end, but with God it is different, he wasn't just created, he is out of our minds. But if you think about it, heres some noticable truth that is cool. If you go to the New Teastamnet bible and turn to the book of Isaiah in the Bible, then go to chapter 40 verse 22, it states "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, ..." Saying that God said that the Earth was round, God said this merely 1500 years before Christopher Colombus said the earth was not flat and that it was round. So yea it is pretty cool, the bible said that the earth was round before chris found out. so yea theres some wild awesome proof.

Answer 9

The Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy is sufficient to explain motion in the Universe without appealing to a "First Mover." In principle, gas molecules can move without a necessary beginning or end.

Answer 10

Once all the numbers from 2 to Infinity started fighted who created whom with "1" remaining silent and "0" shouting aloud for being the creator of all and claiming "All have been created out of nothing and that's me". But the wise men know its the "1" which created all by adding to itself several times.He always see the "1" in all the numbers like saints watch "HIM" in each and every particle of this universe.

Answer 11

Well okay, let's try this. I could say Where did God come from? Who created God? And you'd say, God wasn't created, God was always there.

And now I say, there's no God there, the universe was just always there.

Either way it leaves us uncomprehending, because our puny minds aren't very good at thinking about eternity. So let's just fess up and admit that.