Someone regards him as marvellous; another speaks of him as marvellous;and yet, after hearing,no one knows him

Question

Some turned their inward eye to the Self and gazing at him lost sense of the world. Many others who sang his praises attained dispassion and became ever immersed in him beyond limit. Others, content to hear about him, lost consciousness of the body and became one with him through spiritual experience. Just as the currents of the rivers join the sea and return not, even if they are not merged with it (171-175), so the minds of Yogi who have become one with him do not attain rebirth through discriminating knowledge.

that's from Bhagavad Gita viz Jnaneswari

Can this mean THAT is Nothing, or beyond that can be expressed...?

Answer 1

It is certainly beyond what can be conceptually conceived or expressed, and yes, it is “nothing”. But the word ‘nothingness’ is misunderstood by most people. In most eastern traditions, nothingness is not just sheer absence. Nothingness is “no-thing-ness”, which is to say, it is not a “thing”, which means it can never be made the object of conscious thought. Consciousness is always conscious OF something, but in the experience of Nothingness there is nothing to be conscious of, so this is sometimes called “pure consciousness” although the use of the word ‘consciousness’ here is problematic. Nothingness (sometimes called the ‘Void’ etc.) is pregnant with possibility. Nothingness is the SOURCE of all things, but it itself is not a thing, so it is “nothing” (i.e., “no-thing”).

Existentialists (Sartre, etc) also grapple with the idea of Nothingness, but in a different way. For Sartre, consciousness itself is nothing. Existentialist reality is an amorphous blob in which everything is indeterminate. Consciousness is negation. To be conscious is to say “not this, not that” so that what’s left stands out as a thing. So, for example, if you are conscious of a cat, you focus on the cat, which pushes everything that is NOT cat into the background. Consciousness negates everything that is not-cat so that it can experience the cat AS a CAT. This is also the idea behind Gestalt psychology. Without consciousness there would be no negation, and thus nothing could stand out as an object of consciousness. So, for Sartre, consciousness is the no-thing that makes things possible by negating all that is not the thing (pushes all that is not the object of consciousness into the background).

Answer 2

We all choose to hear him, or (it) which is what i use as a referral. We hear it and are trying to figure out what to do with it.

Answer 3

sweetheart.....stick to being good looking...you are so fine...as for your question..who knows!!!