If you're pro-choice - I just changed my nickname, what do you think?

Question

I was mommaof3 but I am now expecting a 4th kiddo in the spring. I am exercising, eating well and not drinking (or other stuff I never did anyway). For those of you who are pro-choice, does all this not matter how I treat my body since my baby isn't a baby yet (just "tissue")? I'm pro-life/anti-abortion. I was just wondering what you thought about a fetus that is wanted and will survive? Is it a valid baby just because I care about it and will not get rid of it? Really, I don't mean to be nasty, (it's hard to read tone in a written message) I really am curious where you stand.

At 6 weeks, barely along, my baby has a spinal column, brain waves, a hertbeat with his or her own blood type, internal organs, eyes, legs, hands, fingernails, mouth and lips. Surely not able to live outside the womb, but a human anyways! 7-1/2 more months to grow.

By the way, I have 3 boys & this is my last babe. Let's all hope for a girl! I figure, if not, I got the boy thing down!

Answer 1

You are attempting to slide down a slippery slope that doesn't exist. Be rational. If you make a decision to carry through with a pregnancy, then of course you have an obligation to take care of yourself and therefore your future child. I'm don't mean to be nasty either, but you are trying to equate pro-choice with anti-life, and that will not work. If you are pregnant and planning on carrying the baby to term, then you have begun, probably, to think of it as a baby. Nothing wrong with that, but it's an emotional reaction, and has no bearing on when personhood or life actually begins. And congratulations !

Answer 2

By nature I'm a true feminist, so naturally I am pro-choice. I currently, don't have any children and if my luck I get pregnant I will not abort it. I don't mean to sound all better then you or anything to that nature, I don't think an abortion should be a way out of pregnancy if they did not want the child. I do see it as a way to end the pregnancy if the child does not have half of it's brain or a spinal cord. Which I know 2 people that had an abortion when their fetus was like that.

Answer 3

Congratulations on the pregnancy!
Something I never quite understood about those pro-choicers claiming that women need to be in control of their own bodies. Of coarse they should, but what about the body of the child that is to be aborted? It isn't a cancerous growth. It isn't a virus. Genetically the foetus is human. Genetically the foetus is a human who is distinct from both parents. So given that the foetus is human, shouldn't it have some rights as well?

Answer 4

Congrats! I am pro-life myself, but respect every woman's right to choose. I feel just because you can't see it, that doesn't mean that the baby doesn't exist. I put a child up for adoption because I would not get an abortion (unplanned pregnancy, still did everything right while I was preggers. Was on birth control when I got preggers). And to feel that child grow inside me, to feel him move in me, respond to me, and kick.... wow. No one could ever tell me that wasn't a person inside me.

I think abortion is murder. Period. I think partial-birth abortion is the worst. That's why it's mostly outlawed now.... if not completely.

Again, congrats new mommy! I hope you get the princess you want. I have a princess and she's a complete joy. Although I now wish I had my little prince too. But he's got a loving mom and dad, a brother and sister, and he's well taken care of!

Answer 5

I respect every person's right to choose what is best for their particular situation. It sounds as though you are a very loving and involved mother. Good for you!

I also think that a lot of women would have a hard time supporting 4 children - so there must be a partner involved. Having multiple kids and living off of social services is not cool in my opinion. Using an abortion as a method of birth control is not cool either in my eyes. Taking the morning after pill is a responsible and good thing to do if there is a chance that one could end up pregnant and would not want to be.

Answer 6

I'm going to post the introduction of the Wiki article on Pro-choice, then I will post the link:

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Pro-choice activists believe that abortion should be a legal option for any woman with an unwanted pregnancy. Some see abortion as a last resort, and focus on a number of situations where they feel abortion is a necessary option. Among these situations are those where the woman was raped, her health or life is at risk, contraception was used but failed, or she feels unable to raise a child. Some pro-choice moderates, who would otherwise be willing to accept certain restrictions on abortion, feel that political pragmatism compels them to oppose any such restrictions, as they could be used to form a slippery slope against all abortions.[1]

Pro-choice activists frequently oppose legislative measures that would require abortion providers to make certain statements (some of which are factually disputed) to patients, because they argue that these measures are intended to make obtaining abortions more difficult. These measures fall under the rubric of abortion-specific "informed consent" or "right to know" laws.[2]

On the issue of abortion, pro-choice campaigners are opposed by pro-life campaigners who argue that the central issue is a completely different set of rights. The pro-life view considers a human fetus/embryo to have the full legal rights of a human being; thus, the right to life of a developing fetus/embryo trumps the rights of a pregnant woman to use abortion as a means to control her fertility.>>

It would seem to me that if you want to take away a woman's right to choose when she can get pregnant, you are also going to take away her right to choose to stay pregnant, or even her right to choose when she will have sex. Meaning, if she can't choose when she will get pregnant(the man in her life says she can't use BC, and that she will have sex with him when ever he says so), she might not be able to choose when she will stay pregnant(the man that got her pregnant can say he doesn't want the child in this world and forces her to abort). IMHO.

You said this will be your last pregnancy, which I am taking to mean that you will use some form of BC to prevent future pregnancies. Guess what? That makes you Pro-choice, too.;o)

Answer 7

Why would anyone care about your choice? What pro-choice people want is the choice to decide over their own bodies (your fetus is still part of your body). How would you react if cancer was growing in your body that would profoundly change your life for the worse in a few months and you were not allowed to remove it?

If you want this child, then more power to you. I doubt any pro-choice person will condemn you for having children. The child is not a human until it can survive (with care) outside of your body. Until then, it may be a potential human, but it isn't anything more than that.

Answer 8

Uh, are you expecting pro-choice people to insist you have an abortion?

You know nothing about the pro-choice position. People who believe that everyone should have the freedom to make their own life choices for themselves (rather than the government making those choices for us) believe, well, people should get to make their own decisions.

You want to have a baby, so you are doing the things that will give you the best chance of doing so.

If things were up to me, there wouldn't be any abortions because there wouldn't be any unwanted pregnancies. That doesn't mean I'm against women who want to have babies having them. Just that we shouldn't try to force women who don't want them to have them (or, as often happens, risk their lives ending their pregnancies illegally).

If your intention is to persuade, then you should first understand those whose minds you would change. You currently do not.

Answer 9

Being a woman and not liking people to tell me what i can and can not do with my body i am pro abortion. I have the right to one if i want. Only though if it is very early. If you have a brain you know when you are late and can get an abortion before 6 weeks I have 3 kids and love them all. THere is to much out there about birth control no one can really say oops anymore.

Answer 10

When your fetus walks out of there at 6 weeks and gets a job, then I will consider it a life. Until then it is a parasite. You have a parasite, albeit a DESIRABLE parasite living in you. By your standards, the mold in my bleu cheese is life and should not be destroyed. Until it is able to self sustain, it will remain a parasite, without you, there is no it. I am pro-choice but I DO NOT think abortion should be a form of birth control. I do however feel it is the mother's option and should remain her option. I do not hold a grudge against pro-lifers. They have to believe what they believ and it is OK. They are still practicing CHOICE however. They are CHOOSING NOT to abort. That is a good choice. I agree with their conviction. but I disagree with the delivery of their message. I do not think any group has the right to force their opinions on another. Y'know what kills me, I would bet my life's income that there are idiots out there that preach pro-life and drown puppies because the purebred markings are not to perfection. any takers on my bet?