When you board a bus and pay your fare and end up having to get up?

Question

so someone in a wheelchair can take 5 seats, shouldln't you get your money back since you had to give up your seat? Many times the bus is full and the only place to sit is in the front seats. I think everyone who has to give up their seat should get a refund. We should all pay for the seats we take as it is only fair. If I take up one seat, I should pay for one seat, if I take up 5 then I should pay for five. This is the only way to be fair to everyone. I have seen women with babies have to give up their seat to a handicapped person which puts the woman in risk to if the bus stops suddenly which the ones here do all the time. Let's be fair and say first come first serve, equal for everyone, no special treatment.

Answer 1

I agree. You paid for your seat, so why should you feel like you have to give it up for anybody. That is the way I see it. Would you buy a value meal at a fast food place and give your whole meal to someone who is disabled? No, you are there because you are hungry. With the bus, you are there to have a seat and be transported via the bus. So no, I rarely give up my seat because I paid for that seat.

Answer 2

By your theory, a crowded bus shouldn't have to make room for a person in a wheelchair. The handicapped person must then wait for more buses than other people who can just squeeze on.

Is that fair?

Shouldn't handicapped individuals have fair access?

I agree with you about a mother or a child with an infant. The seats should be reserved for them as well.

Also, I can see your point about first come first serve. You could simply dash ahead to that chair-bound malcontent and get the seat first! After all, you earned it! You're faster, stronger and more abled. You are better! Yeah, you!

I'm sorry. That was a little too sarcastic. You're not better. In fact, I hope I never meet you. You sound like a terrible person who lacks compassion, empathy and human decency.

And why didn't you give up your seat for the woman with the child?

Answer 3

I am sorry you had a bad day.
Sooner or later you will have problems and want special allowances. How tolerant, understanding, and enlightenned a society is can be judged by how they treat their very weak, sick, elderly, and those who cannot stand up for themselves.
We all know it could happen to us, so we make allowances for the ones who are already disabled. We want to keep them active and trying to care for themselves, its better and cheaper for society as a whole.
Handicapped in wheelchairs cannot easily roll down the aisle to get the next available seat. We do not want to exclude them or force them into the street with traffic, so they get the seats closest to their entry way.
You know the handicapped have to use the seats next to the exits, so choose other seats. when possible. Or wait for a less crowded bus, by going shopping for a couple of hours. Sounds like your city needs more buses. But if they had enough for everyone to always have a seat, the municipal division responsible for transportation would probably go broke.
Where we Iive we do not have a bus or public transportation. I guess it isn't crowdwd enough yet. But when my arthritis is very bad, my sight isn't that good, and I feel a bit down I really wish we did have a public transportation system.
I know you get aggravated and even insulted when they make you get up and move to the back or the aisle, I know I would too. Too bad everyone isn't more patient so they could be more polite and understanding as they have you move out of the way. But, alas, we are an over-stressed society. Bus drivers get aggravated when they have to be aggressive and tell someone to move. Avoidance is best in this instance. If you do take a seat that may have to be used for a handicapped person, immediately vacate before anyone can even say anything. You will feel better and everyone else will too. They may even find you a seat for your effort.

If you are standing with a mother and baby, you might start looking around for someone else to give up their spot for them. When I had my first babe I was up north and I would only have to stand a couple of stops before a spot came open or someone insisted I take their seat.

I have lived all over the world, and there's plenty of nice folk about if you give them a chance and a smile!
Have a better day tomorrow, ok?

Answer 4

No, you're paying to be taken from point A to point B. There is nothing in your contract (the terms of the bus company) that guaranties you a seat. Buses have standing room for the same fare as seated.

If you'd been made to pay extra for a seat then it'd be different, but you'd probably only be entitled to the difference between seated fare and standing fare, if they existed, which they don't.

I agree with you though, that this giving up a seat to a disabled person is a form of demeaning discrimination, it's tantamount to saying "aww you poor cripple, you better have the seat in case you dribble on the floor"

Answer 5

Youre not paying for the seat, your paying for the ride.

A pregnant or new mom shouldnt have to give up her seat, because the men in the area should be willing. Or a woman who is more able to stand safely.

Jsut like the elderly or handicapped should be able to ride in a space thats designed to accomidate them, or some one who is empathetic and more human should be willing to give up their seat for the less fortunate.

Its just a bus seat after all. A kind gesture is priceless.

Answer 6

that's rude. you should have some consideration for the handicapped. just because you give up your actual seat doesn't mean you should get a refund. i mean you're still on the bus right? or when you give up your seat you also get off the bus. i highly doubt that. the fare isn't just for your chair, it's for the gas and to pay the driver. so be more considerate!!

Answer 7

Perhaps the women with babes in arms get up because no one else will. You are not paying for a seat but a ride. People give up their seat because of being polite. We should all practice being polite, after all, it could be you, your mom, dad or wife in that wheel chair.

Answer 8

Do they have wheelchair lefts on your buses? They don't here! We have special buses that go around to take these people to the doctors, to the stores etc. If you have paid for a seat and set down, yes you should be able to keep your seat. Men don't even get up anymore for women on buses if it is full so they can sit down. What a mess that has turned into. Up bringing, brought up wrong with no respect. I know I would never give up my seat for no one. Like you say, you have paid for a service. I'm glad I have my own car and my own seat.

Answer 9

Did you offer your seat to the woman with the baby? People do not show enough compassion in this world. That's why everyone is so dang crabby all the time. DO SOMETHING NICE FOR SOMEONE ELSE AND QUIT ACTING LIKE EVERYONE OWES YOU SOMETHING AND EARN IT!

Answer 10

You're not paying for the seat, you're paying for the lift from point A to point B. Since you don't lose that even when you give up your seat, you owe the fare.

Lighten up, geez.

Answer 11

Just think of it as being a good person and thank God you are not in their position. If you have two good legs, if you're young, etc.. etc.. it will not kill you to stand. Think of it as doing a good deed and if everyone did them the world would be a much better place. Really, don't be so jaded. There are much worse things in life. If this is your biggest complaint, you're doing pretty darn good. Maybe give yourself a test....try to go one week without complaining, seeing the bright side to every situation, you'll be a much happier person!