As water touched by breeze takes the form of ripples?

Question

Beings are unmanifest in their beginnings; they become manifest in. the middle, O Bharata; and they become unmanifest after death. So why grieve over them?

All these creatures were formless before birth; they come to possess form only after they are born. When they perish they do not certainly enter a new form, but revert to their original state. (161-165) But whatever form is seen in- between is like a dream. So this world is a superimposition on Reality due to Maya. Even as water touched by breeze takes the form of ripples, or gold worked by a goldsmith turns into ornaments, or the sky becomes covered by a layer of clouds, so all the creatures are products of Maya. Why do you weep and wail over what is not there. Think only of immutable conscious self. By yearning for it and experiencing it the saints discard sense-objects, permits, on their part, become indifferent to the worldly pleasures (166-170) and the great sages take the vow of chastity etc. and practice austerities.

any thoughts to share?

Answer 1

All souls(note the plural used), even as they are formless except due to Maya, ought to be different souls anyway. If they are different, they must have some dimension even as they lack any physical dimension. Existence of any dimension implies a beginning and an end. Therefore souls can not be indestructible. But then souls are not destructible either.

The only solution to this paradox can be that souls themselves are manifestation of God Supreme, another kind of Maya, and they finally unmanifest into God Supreme. Just as body is a form of soul, soul itself is an aspect of God.

Answer 2

Nobody knows if beings are unmanifest in their begginings and after death, or manifest in the middle. There are so many things that we can't see, or understand. Things seem manifest to us, but who knows.........

Answer 3

i myself had to objective and try this yet existence look complicating issues. The tiny ripples that made a distinction in my existence are the well-known issues that human beings had created and what they stirred in me.

Answer 4

"The Benefits of Suffering" by Jeanne Marie De La Motte-Guyon

By Suffering only can we know
The nature of the life we live;
The temper of our souls they show,
How true, how pure, the love we give.
To leave my love in doubt would be
No less disgrace than misery!

I welcome, then, with heart sincere,
The cross my Savior bids me take;
No load, no trial, is severe,
That's borne of suffered for His sake:
And thus my sorrow shall proclaim
A love that's worthy of the name.
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This poem helped me during the grieving of my Dad & kitty-cat.
Before their death, I didn't understand why grieving was important, but my belated beloved have taught me that the pain isn't really pain, but part of experiencing life which is more than a ripple on the lake.

Answer 5

I recently read The Upanishads, and that ancient text was the closest to what I perceive god to be, since god (brahmin) is everything, no some entity seperate from its creation.

Answer 6

The real you is your soul, your conscious, it's timeless, eternal.
Your body is only a vehicle, temporary.

Answer 7

You do enjoy dissillusioning and deceiving yourself...dont you...

Answer 8

Very nice.