Evolution has never been proven and never will nor can be...?

Question

so what is the point of teaching evolution in schools like it's fact? One man thought of it, and all of a sudden we treat it like it's fact. Many of many of people write books about different things and get called fools and idiots for what they think. Yet Darwin steps up and says, I've got it! and literally the world falls at his feet and worships his THEORY! You must notice that it's a T-H-E-O-R-Y! I didn't know theories were taken so seriously in science.

Maybe people should use the dictionary more often.

1. a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity.
2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

Do you people who argue for evolution listen to yourselves? I honestly believe you don't because if you knew how stupid you sound you'd never open your mouth in the first place. First off evolution makes absolutely no sense and is not even close to being logical.
If humans are "evolving" why don't we...
1. Live longer instead of shorter?
2. Have an immunity to diseases?
3. Have gills to breath under water? Millions of years and no gills?
4. Have an immunity to sun burn? Skin still not tough after millions of years?
5. Have an immunity to asthma, some people not evolving?
6. Grow limbs back if they're cut off? Starfish do it are we not that advanced yet?
7. Fly? Haven't seen someone grow wings yet? Millions of years of evolution should have taken care of that.
8. Where is the half evolved monkeys?
9. Why are people still losing hair?
10. Birth defects we're not evolved past that yet?
11. Where is all the lunar dust on the moon from these MILLIONS of years?

Answer 1

First of all, I do believe that the term "theory" precedes "evolution" almost every time...that's the whole definition of theory, is that it has a lot of evidence going for it, and thus can be researched and expanded on in a scientific manner...of course we cannot say with 100% certainty that it is fact, but we do have enough scientific evidence to continue teaching it in schools...That's the whole point of theory is that it seems highly probable and thus we can use it...Ever taken physics? In case you were wondering, gravity is still a theory...so let's say we just completely eliminate theories from all of our curriculum...we really wouldn't be left with anything...In some sense, evolution may never be proven because we cannot relive the past, but in that sense nothing can ever be proven...

Answer 2

Yes, theories are taken seriously in science. You evidently refuse to understand the meaning. Looking in dictionaries won't help if you won't heed them. You should realize that there are both the theory and the fact of evolution. It is too well demonstrated to be doubted by any competent scientist who looks objectively at the evidence. There are disputes about some of the mechanisms in it, and creationists exaggerate that and take things scientists say out of context. That is lying, pure and simple. Evolution will eventually be proven totally and called a law of nature. You mentioned the theory of relativity. Do you imagine it can never be proven and shouldn't be taught either? There have been modifications of Darwin's theory, for your information. It is creationism that never will or can be proven. It is not even a theory. It is just a naive myth that reputable scientists discarded long ago.

Answer 3

urscreamin, don't just ignore people's answers. They are trying to tell you something that will keep you from saying things like ...

"I didn't know theories were taken so seriously in science"

They ARE. Theories are taken *very* seriously. Didn't you know that?

*Everything* you learn in science class is THEORY ... the theory of gravity, the atomic theory of matter, the germ theory of disease, cell theory in biology, the plate tectonics theory of geology, the acretion disk theory of the solar system, Einstein's theory of relativity, quantum theory, string theory, etc. etc. etc.

*Everything* in a science class is theory. A theory does not make it into the science classroom until a significant consensus of scientists agree that it is a strong theory, with good evidence, and the best theory there is to explain certain experiments or observations.

I agree with you that a theory should NOT be taught in school "like it's fact" ... that is a problem with the teaching of science, not with the science itself. Most school-teachers are not scientists, and it is easy when teaching a subject to slip into statements of "this is how it is" instead of "this is what scientists generally believe today". But this is true in *all* science classrooms, not just biology, and not just the theory of evolution.

If you want to campaign to educate science teachers about reminding students that *all* scientific theories are contingent ... I would support you absolutely ... but NOT if you only want this applied to evolution ... then you're just trying to diminish evolution below other scientific theories, and that's just cynical nonsense.

By the way, please read that dictionary definition you quote. #1 is actually pretty close to what *scientists* mean when they use the word 'theory'. #2 is is what non-scientists mean when they say "I have a theory about where I lost my keys." That's why your dictionary puts Einstein's theory of relativity as an example of #1. Darwin's theory of natural selection is in the same category.

Finally, where do you get the idea that tens of thousands of scientists, for over 150 years, have overwhelmingly accepted the theory of evolution just because they "fall down at Darwin's feet and worship his THEORY"?

Why do you think that scientists are idiots? Why do you think they are mindless sheep, or that they accept a theory with the same depth of thought as teenage girls thinking that Tom Cruise is hot?

Scientists are NOT idiots. They are not mindless sheep. They are actually some pretty smart people. They accept evolution because (1) it makes ragingly simple good sense; and, even more important (2) because there is EVIDENCE. Really, yes, there is *tons* of it. More than there is evidence of relativity or quantum theory or the big bang theory of the universe. The evidentiary case in favor of evolution is one of strongest cases every built in science.

Please stop insulting scientists. Chances are that science will save your life someday, if it hasn't already ... or the life of someone you love. The next time you or someone you care about gets antibiotics, or an X-ray or MRI scan, or an insulin injection, or a pacemaker, or an oxygen tank, thank a scientist. The next time you flick on a light switch, grab something from your fridge, or start your car, thank a scientist. Each and every time you type a key on your keyboard that gets coded as electricity and gets sent over the Internet, thank a scientist. All of these things are based on *theories*. All based on *evidence*.

Scientists don't just "fall down and worship" at *anybody's* feet.

Ever.

Answer 4

To quote essayist Gregg Easterbrook:

"This is ill-informed. In everyday usage, 'theory' can mean a conjectural or unlikely claim. ('See, I have this theory why Maria Sharapova would go out with me.') In science, a theory is an idea that has well-accepted supporting principles, has been tested successfully and that no one has falsified; in science the word theory conveys high standing. For instance, first relativity was an analytical idea, then a hypothesis, then after many years of testing was acknowledged as a theory. When in 1996 Pope John Paul II called Darwinianism 'more than a hypothesis,' he was choosing words precisely. Many on today's anti-science right appear ignorant of such basic precepts as the definition of the word theory."

So, theory to a scientist does not mean "something I just pulled out of my ***." Something doesn't become a theory until it has a lot of suppot. And yes, once it has lots of support of course scientists take it seriously.

Would you oppose teaching the theory of plate tectonics? Or Einstein's theory of relativity? Very little would be taught in science classes. Find out more about scientific methodology and terms, that'll give you a better understanding of matters.

Answer 5

You're question and the following rant shows an embarrassing lack of knowledge on the subject. Here are the simplest ways I could answer your questions, but my guess is that you don't understand the science enough for this to help.

1. we do live longer then we used to
2. we are, different gene pools do have resistances to deceases
3. we don't live underwater
4. some gene pools do have resistance to suns burns (ever seen someone from Africa?)
5. most do
6. too complicated genetics to be able to do that. More simple genetics=reproduced limbs
7. we don't live in the sky
8. we didn't evolve from monkeys
9. we don't need hair anymore. Still losing hair is evolution,
10. by the nature of reproduction, you will always have birth defects.
11. that's a space questions.

Answer 6

Your brain has not evolved too far. So, using you as an example, there is no evolutionl

First off, do you even know the difference between theory and hypothesis? Theory is something that is developed from a hypothesis by using the scientific method of research. This method requires reading up on the subject in question, divising a method of testing (adhering to very strict rules) then examining and interpreting the results. Then you get Theory. It is not something made up by a mad scientist. EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE OPINING ON A TOPIC WITH WHICH YOU ARE UNFAMILIAR. Now that would be scientific lol

Answer 7

Evolution can in fact be proven, and I have done so. Which makes it unusual, as most scientific theories are not proveable. A theory, even if unproveable, becomes "established" when a significant number of workers in the field accept it and routinely use it to make predictions which they consider useful (i.e., correct). In this sense, evolution has been established for a century. But the proof that I have devised is the first one that I have seen.

Answer 8

But doesn't everything in Science start being proven and researched because of someones theory. And to prove evolution look in the mirror mate

Answer 9

If you don't know that theories are taken seriously in science, you don't know anything about science. And from the tone of your "question", I don't think you care to know. So why are you posting?

Answer 10

the world fell to his feet...ok but many of those same family members go to different churches and worship other theories