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When and how this attention could happen. what triggered this phenomenon? I think this is a very serious question that needs serious answer, thanx.

2006-10-07 17:39:59 · 4 answers · asked by ol's one 3 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

not concentration, not focus, pls. no theory examine ur self if this attention is happening now.

2006-10-08 04:37:11 · update #1

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When the egoic mind says undivided attention it usually means concentration.
It means narrowing down the field of attention to a point and closing all things out apart from that.
The problem with this is it maintains a centre as me, otherwise who is it that is concentrating?
This egoic me is made up of endless fragments,therefore in concentration there is mental conflict.
Im not certain if you mean attention as in being attentive or if you mean awareness.
What is behind all mental movements is this subtle awareness. Even if your mind is absolutly still and silent there is still this awareness.
It seems this awareness is somehow outside the egoic mind. But its always there no matter what, it is there.
The egoic mind can come and go but this magical awareness never leaves you. It is what lets you know that you are there. Its what lets you say I am here, i am, i exist.
Ofcourse the egoic mind then plays with those 3 facts and makes a story about it to maintain its self.
Then modifies I am here to I know i am here
or I am to I am something or I exist to I know i exist.
But all this is ok to in awareness all this is seen.
You are not the egoic self nor is the egoic mind your mind, you were never these things.
They are all stories around what you really are. All you can ever say is I am I am here I exist.
The entity belongs to egoic mind.
And again behind your question and this attempt to answer it is always this background awareness,
Why not make that your identity and see what happens.
This is a contribution based on personal findings.
Again to quote a good quote the description is never the described. Nice question ols one!

2006-10-07 23:05:16 · answer #1 · answered by sotu 3 · 0 0

this sounds a lot like something geared towards Castaneda style thinking... so I'm your man to answer this... do you talk to yourself in your head? i know you do... everyone does... this is your internal dialog... your internal dialog, for all intensive purposes, are your chains... to keep you grounded in this present and everyday mundane reality (which btw is not a bad reality in fact it is the best one for which a human to have a healthy and lengthy life) and which if you examine (your internal dialog that is... for all those of you who are ƒucked up) is not your own thoughts ideals and morals... those words are implanted in you from the day you are born to conform you into what is currently accepted to be human.... now an undivided attention would be a human mind thinking independently from these "constructs" if you will with an attitude that would be best described as "a place of no PITY" towards yourself or others... this undivided attention is not a phenomenon rather a thing lost in everyday life... and it is not some entity that is control while you achieve this state but rather your core being without everyone elses ßullshit attached btw if you haven't read any Carlos Castaneda you should... he is an author... apparently i guess.... and you can find a lot of his works on the net just search for that §hit and you'll find it.. have fun

2006-10-07 18:49:13 · answer #2 · answered by Pravus Invictus 2 · 1 0

Attention is just attention, no division, all the senses functioning at the same time, there is no you or me in attention, all the movements of the self is not.

2015-03-10 15:44:23 · answer #3 · answered by ol's one 3 · 0 0

attention / attender - winds within the field of perception - the void from which perception and perceived phenomena arise...

and if there is no self, what reincarnates?

2006-10-07 20:33:45 · answer #4 · answered by augoeides 2 · 1 0

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