I find it surprising that people are using the term ...?

Question

People are using the term "cut and run" .. like we are cowards if we pull out of this unfinished war where over 3,000 troops have been killed. Yet, for those of you who are old enough to remember the Vietnam War, or look back in the history books. You will find that when President Johnson left office, and had about 500,000 troops in Vietnam .. ( he kept building up troops as told to do .. ).. When Republican Richard Nixon came into office he had a "secret plan" to get us out of Vietnam. It was eventually called: "Leaving with Honor". Vietnam was a war we lost, the first one for America. Yet he realized it was time to pull out. What is the difference today? The Conservative Neocons want people to feel guilty for getting our men home. "Cut and Run" .. is just a rotten label or slogan to use .. when we did the same thing in Vietnam .. Nixon said .. "Leaving with Honor" . What is the difference between today and then ? Anyone care to say ? Esp. the Conservative NeoCons ???

Answer 1

I'am currently in the United States Armed Forces of American.If we leave that term will fit us perfect. Look at Isreal, Hezbullah has proven its point that no country is unbeatable. They also showed that they do have a politic agenda as well. They are a mulita of people that are fighting for a very good reason infact, unlike terrorist groups. It is sad that alot of terrorist groups are now structuring there training and fighting skills of the revolutionary guards and the hezbullah milita.Terrorist groups have seen where Hezbullah achieved there status and goals with small amount of people. That makes terrorist groups more motivated and determined than ever to achieve there goals. If we leave now they would most certainly follow. By the way we are just at a cease fire with north korea for those who did'nt know. Vietnam was know different things still are much the same today as than. We never did get all of are P.O.W.s out and rumour as it there is still some alive in captivity.Are war against drugs in columbia is the same way. You have a large portion under the control of a group called fart.They are nothing but a terrorist group who sells drugs for a living.They have captured american soldiers and any time we or any military force goes to rescue them they are exacuted on contact,why is'nt that in the news.Is it because it was a soilder in the army and not a civialian. U.S. soilders are under fire everyday in alot of countrys that is not reported in the news. This terrorist problem has been going on for years. Are body count is stacking up higher and higher everyday. Now alot of people want to cut and run and have are soldiers to pull out.That would be a very foolish thing to do because are soldiers are still going to be a terrorist target don't matter what country there in wether Iraq, Africa or in the International water way and air ways. Thanks for asking this question and i hope that alot of people are not offended by my personal beliefs based off my life experiences

Answer 2

The problem with Vietnam had nothing to do with capabilites of our men in uniform. The reason we could not win in Vietnam is the South Vietnamese people did not have the heart to win. At home, there was little domestic support for the war.

I do not know if the Iraqi people have the heart to win this war. There does seem to be wanning support for this war at home.

Hold your hat - you may just be predicting the future by looking at the past after the Repulicans are put out of office in 08.

For the record - I am an Independent with conservative tendencies.

Answer 3

We could have, and should have left with a event such as Zarqawi being killed. We need a victory event, and immediate (same day announcement) withdrawl of >10% chunks.

Ofcorse we will need to leave a few hundred planes enough to collapse any infrastructure as a punishment if we need to.

Hopefully the next "small victory" will trigger such an announcement. Judging the strength of the iraq forces is somethign nobody can prove or disprove truthfully, so that itself is a open ended pass for leaving.

... The only reason I think we should start to roll out is the daily cost of this war...

Answer 4

Are you talking about Afganistan (Taliban) or Iraq? I'm a Canadian and think the US shouldn't have started war on Iraq (Canadians stayed out of that one) but agree something needed to be done with the Taliban and hopefully hunt down Osama Bin Laden. I don't think Iraq should have been a target because they didn't actually find what they were looking for (mass nuclear armament). I think George W. Bush isn't doing his own thinking anyway, but probably carrying out what his daddy wanted.

That's just my opinion and I don't really follow it too closely so I could be a bit off and if I am or if I insulted anyone, I am sorry.

Answer 5

Using the term moves the discussion away from the things that the conservative administration does wrong and onto Democrats or people against the war. It isn't about playing fair or having a frank and considered discussion. It is all about winning the opinion polls.

BTW, I think we lost the Korean War, too. Last time I checked, there is still a North Korea that is communist (well, it is a totalitarian regime).

Answer 6

Call it whatever you want. When a decision to leave is made without regard to what happens as a consequence, it's cutting and running. Nixon wanted to turn the war over to the Vietnamese, but the Congress refused to fund the South Vietnamese. So came about the take-over of the south and the evacuatiion of the U.S. embassey in 1975. A human tragedy followed that event but our smug little butts in the U.S. were unaffected exept maybe a little inconvience with some refugees. Think hard about your little exercise in semantics.

Answer 7

I don't know if there's any difference. I hate the fact that we're still over there, and that so may lives are being lost. Heck, I hate the fact that our country decides to go to other countries, and disable the power system that they have in place...but I digress, I am from a military family so it bothers me that we're still there, however because of everything that has occurred, Iraq is not stable enough for us to pull out. We need to finish up the job, unfortunately. But hey, Bush won't be in office much longer, and can't be reelected, so we'll see what happens.

Answer 8

i'm an Atheist, and that i say it very typically. clone of saying "pot calling the kettle black" would not truly examine with a kitchen concern, and "raining cats and canines" would not recommend animals are falling from the sky, "oh my God" isn't used in connection with an all-powerful being. that's only a figure of speech. If some thing, that's Christians that should not be saying it because that's taking The Lords call in ineffective.

Answer 9

I hate that term....and it's used for the reason you give....it makes it sound cowardly.

I think we need to bring our kids back home. They are dying because our president and his administration bit off more than they could chew and are too bull-headed to say so. They would rather let our children die.

We cannot win this war no matter how long we stay there....it's like they don't remember our past. It sad and shameful.

Answer 10

It is the only honorable thing to do, along with making reparations for all the damage done. So it would be cut and run with honor.

May your days be truly joyful.