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are you fed up with being gagged in our " free speach " country , ? Jack Straw was right in my opinion , and if hes not right he is entitled to put his veiws forward without extreme minorities going on the rampage, our kids cant wear a " hoody " in most shops but these muslims seem to think they should be above these rules, let them have their muslim states in Iran or where ever, and give all muslims the choice to go and live there, I for one would donate towards their air fares!! and no Im not a rascist, I have muslim freinds , black freinds and asian freinds who dont impose their wishes on society!!

2006-10-07 00:27:41 · 19 answers · asked by james m 1 in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Other - Cultures & Groups

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Totally.
Freedom of speech and freedom of Expession is essential if a stable society is to be maintained.
Far too many people abuse the legislation.
Our local shop/off license sees people in muslim garb shoplifting , even shoplifting booze which they sell on to white kids, yet management policy is to turn a blind eye even to wipe the CCTV each day.
After 9/11 American muslims ditched the turbans and the veils and wore baseball caps as a mark of respect.
I think they should continue ths as a mark of respect and to show they do not support terrorist action.
If they support it well wear the tuban and the veil, but perhaps in he way that few Neo Nazis wear swastica badges perhaps few terrorist supporters would feel the need to show their feelings overtly.

2006-10-07 00:43:05 · answer #1 · answered by "Call me Dave" 5 · 1 1

There's a difference between free speech and racism. Whilst the freedoms or religion, opinion and marital practice are existant in this country, you cannot allow extremists to take advantage of this. It would be wrong to allow such extremists as Abu Hamza topreach hatred, and then claim free speech when young men are brainwashed into the same way of thinking.
As for your Muslim statement, I would like to point out that it is only in a handfull of areas that Muslims are dominant, mostly in the south. To then ban certain aspects of Muslim culture, such as the hijab, would cause probblems among voters (muslims are voters too!) and also create an apartheid situation, where they are discriminated against. You would then have to ban people wearing crosses, turbans, religious festivals...the list goes on. Similarly, you would probably have to scrap most religiously connected things such as RE lessons, public holidays and anything else with religious aspects.
The grand majority of Muslims do not bypass the laws of this country- many are law abiding homeowners who have a job, children (and send then to state school), sometimes their own business, and go shopping like anyone else. It is just that their veritable religiousity makes then stand out.
Sending them away wouldn't help either- many would not have connections there, and the cost to Britain would be immense- we would lose our workforce, from labourers to doctors, shopkeepers to teachers.
So yes, I am fed up with PC Britain, but Muslims cannot be completely to blame.

2006-10-07 01:14:36 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Good one Jack straw and David cameron. Im probably not going to vote for them (UKIP all the way) but i have so much more respect for them to stand up now as a lot of people are doing and saying it!! Political correctness came about around 10-15 years ago but people have had enough. And when prominent members of government are voicing their concerns then so will many of the people

2006-10-07 01:06:28 · answer #3 · answered by jj26 5 · 0 0

Actually the term PC was invented by the right-wing to belittle academic thought that identified cultural opression and the propagation of prejudice through the use of language in a highly contexualised sense. But due to convergent views on the contexts and the lack of absolute values it has been difficult to rationalise the contextual or syllololigistic determinants of the cultural and expositive values of terminology within a wider socio-economic framework.The fact that Jack Straw expressed a view and exercised his freedom of speech surely undermines your argument? I believe what you are arguing against is others who hold divergent views expressing dissent and are thereby exercising their right of free speech. Which somewhat defeats your argument.

2006-10-07 00:50:40 · answer #4 · answered by albert_rossie 4 · 0 0

Yes Jack Straw is right, we have all had to make concessions because of todays present situation, i would think that decent law abiding muslims would agree with him, and show solidarity with the rest of the population and not wear the veil in public places. It,s a shame the world has come to this, but if you visit a muslim country you have to agree to their culture, so a little bit of give and take is all it takes for a more friendly world.

2006-10-07 00:35:14 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

I'm well & truly pissed off with PC Britain. Putting up barriers between people is all it has achieved. Why shouldn't immigrants be expected to fit in? I'm an immigrant & I don't live in a ghetto with other South Africans (& I could) I fit in. I pay my taxes, I work, I am in the process of becoming a citizen etc. I still love my own country & observe some of the rituals (biltong & Castle) BUT the UK is where I chose to live. If I don't like it I should go home. The same is true of these okes who kick up a stink with the trendy PC brigade.
This country used to be great. Its still a great place to live, but these foreigners & their Brit sympathisers will turn your / our country into a nation of fearful, pathetic milksops. Stand up Britons, surely enough is enough.

2006-10-07 00:42:31 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

I think you have a mix of issues in your question.

I personally agree that Jack Straw has a valid opinion, I am not a fan of the Burqa or the Niqab that cover practically the whole face or the only expose the eyes. It is very difficult to relate to somebody if you cannot see their facial expressions, you have to rely purely on the tone of their voice, when they themselves have much more to go on.

Kids not wearing a hoody in shops is to lower the chance of anti-social behaviour and make it easier to identify people causing hassle, it's an entirely different matter.

In recent polls the majority agreed with Jack Straw's opinion, primarily because it is not based on race or religion, it is based on being comfortable talking to somebody and being able to relate to them.

2006-10-07 00:38:02 · answer #7 · answered by Rob Green 2 · 2 0

I entirely agree James. I work in a library and because one of the girls is a Jehovah's witness, I was not allowed to bring in a cuddly Santa, as they do not celebrate Christmas. Fine, but thhis was discriminating against the majority. In fact don't get me started, just come round to my house on a Saturday and listen to my boyfriend shouting at the telly. I used to think he was racist, but he actually voices the opinions of a lot of people I know who feel this country does not actively promoteTHEIR best interests any more. Its not fair as they all work and do their best for their families and the community, quietly and without fuss or reward

2006-10-07 02:23:00 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Only non-white people seem to be allowed to have freedom of speech in Britain, if a white person expresses an opinion that someone else doesn't like then they are branded as being racist. I totally hate any form of racism but it has to work both ways, its not fair that anyone preeches hatred against anyone else based on race or religion.
I firmly believe that we should all learn to be more tolerant and accept our differences, otherwise we are in real trouble.

2006-10-07 00:40:00 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

confident - the government problem plenty approximately offending minorities they decline to stand up against ideals and practices that have not anyplace in a western liberal democracy. they have not regulated the preachers getting into this usa, and you pay attention in any different case ideal-on Labour politicians like the mayor of London embracing 'Islamic pupils' who pontificate hatred against females and Jews and violence against females. On a lighter be conscious, i've got heard of workplaces banning Winnie the Pooh and Piglet decorations from human beings's desks because of the fact pigs offend Muslims, and somewhat woman's passport image became in basic terms rejected because of the fact her bare shoulders will offend Muslims if she is going to their international places. Whose usa is this? there's a sparkling e book by Melanie Phillips spoke of as Londonistan correct to the upward thrust of militant Islam in Britain it rather is beneficial to look for out.

2016-12-26 11:48:53 · answer #10 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

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