why are the english so defiant agianst being british?

Question

i was born in england and raised in scotland and i hate how this country is never britain anymore. unless scotland have a sucess such as the olympics then it was britain that won!!! england or britain always do well and scotland disappears, no wonder half the world think scotland is a city in england!!! rant over but seriously people we're meant to be a united kingdom!! and that includes the fab folks in northern ireland!! ps couldnt be bothered with capital letters so no pi** takin on that plz!!! rant really over this time!!

and i dont mean this as an individual attack i mean it as a cultural general question

me and my folks??? i am british and i stress again this is general not a finger pointing game!!! u guys are kinda provin my point? how can scotland expect to be part of a nation that so defiantly wants them seperated?

mr ray? ur talkin shi*e. i am english and my mum and half my family are english. i have lived here for 16 years and cannot find it in any memory of mine any evidence to back you up!!! if you feel this way why are you still here? anyway, scots would probably spend more money in england if folk didnt look at u like u were a criminal when u hand over a scottish note!!!!

Answer 1

Does Scotland do things that are distinctive to them alone? I'm sure they probably have a soccer team, certain traditions that are theirs alone. Just support things like that and be proud of who you are and Scotland will forever live on.

Even though I'm American I consider my home to be the UK, maybe one day I can come home.

Answer 2

I'm English, and also British, and perhaps this will be a somewhat surprising response, but I feel that the English are the problem in many ways. It is impossible to forget centuries of warfare with the Scots and all the damage England inflicted on Scotland. Things are better than they used to be, and in times of war the country unites under the Union Jack, as it should, with pride and patroism, but both the English and the Scottish- and the Welsh and Northern Irish- all have their own backgrounds and cultures that will never go away. We have to learn to live with and accept the differences.

Answer 3

Sorry, you are wrong. I was born in Glasgow, studied in Edinburgh
at Fettes College, have lived in several countries and now live
in Brazil. People in foreign countries, especially Brazil, know more
about Scotland than they do about the English. Perhaps this may
have something to do with the wide world St. Andrews societies
that keep Scottish Pride alive wherever they may be.The Scots and
the Irish are a proud lot and stick together. I have seen more kilts
worn in formal wear in the USA than anywhere else other than
Scotland, and by some who have never been to Scotland but are
descendants.

Answer 4

I take your point, but as an Englishman through and through, I have to say that it is NOT the English that have a problem with being UK, it's the Scots, the Welsh and the Irish. The Irish even took to arms!

I totally agree with you though, we should all stand together and stop the bickering, there are enough enemies of UK with falling out with each other!

Oh and it's not half the world that think Scotland is a city in England, it's just the Americans; they also think that England is a village in LONDON!

Answer 5

A previous poster spouts the old Tory/Labour lie about Scotland apparently being subsidised by poor old engerlund.
When it was discovered how much oil was in the North Sea, the government's panic button was hit very hard and a huge campaign was mounted to dupe the Scots into thinking it was a few barrels of hard-to-extract crude.
Through Freedom of Information it has been found that Scotland would have been the richest country in Europe if it had had control over oil revenues.
Given Scotland's socialist leanings, it would have been unlikely that the money would have gone to waging wars and dismantling nationalised industries.
Many people, including me, seek an end to the union through political means.
England is returning to the bosom of the Tories, their natural political masters.
Maybe Scotland will shake itself free of a dead-duck partner in an unfair partnership.

Answer 6

I'm afraid that, for me, the fault for this lies with the Scottish and Welsh. When I was younger I was so proud of being BRITISH but I've got really sick of hearing about how much the Scots and Welsh hate us, how they want independence, how they would support any team playing against us at football etc. I now stipulate I am ENGLISH. Having said that, I still support Scotland, Wales or Ireland against any team apart from England.

Answer 7

well, i'm english and british and happy to be both. i understand what you're saying but think some people involved in politics are very careful about this subject and i'm not sure "british" as a term is dying. after devolution for scotland and wales, as well as the intro of a n. ireland assembly, english nationalism has seen an upsurge but it's still, in my opinon, and rather ironically, the BNP (British National Party - an oxymoron - those racist scum) that is the greatest danger to the pride one can have in being english.

i'd have to say that i think english people call themselves british much more than scottish or welsh people do, which means i think your original question is inaccurate...

Answer 8

I consider myself to be English. Born to English Parents and Bred in England (although grew up in Germany within the British Army under British Law)).
Hate to be classed as British. The word 'British' is a word used to cover the whole of the BRITISH ISLES and its colonies which includes such places as Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland and other British colonies around the world and a wide population of persons born in England not from English parents. Basically, Someone from Africa/Asia/India/ etc etc who came to England 10/20/30/40 years ago had kids who were born in THIS country, the kids are now classed as British.

Basically to be English, comes from your family heritage & desendants (desendents all born & bred in England stemming back 100's & 100's of years). Anyone from any country can call themselves British they were born here!! but there parents were not. SO basically, an asian girls grand parents, born in india, who came here had kids, her mum and dad, had her, basically, She's British, Parents are British (cause parents were born here).

At the end of the day, (and this isn't being raciest) no ethnic minority born in England can say they are English regardless if they were born here cause at the end of the day, they are British. BIG DIFFERENCE !!!! because at some point in the past 110 years or so, thier ansestors came from another country entirely !!!

Answer 9

I haven't found that to be the case. I can only think of one person from all my past and present acquaintances that insists on presenting himself as English instead of British. Do you know the reason behind this? Because "the Scottish and Welsh don't call themselves British, or use the British national anthem, etc. so why should we". So it's a backlash against the efforts of the Scots and Welsh to distance themselves from the UK.

Answer 10

I'm English, not British. If I fill in an application form and say "British", I could quite easily be an immigrant who has struck lucky and got citizenship. An immigrant can *never* be English, and that's why I'm so proud of it!

Whilst on the subject, how many Scots do you know that actually call themselves British? They segregate themselves, and are only ever "Scottish", so don't point the figure at other's, until you've actually realised what you and your folk do!