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please i neeeeeeeed to know

2006-10-05 05:57:16 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Entertainment & Music Music

i want to say the star from rockers point of view .

2006-10-05 06:09:55 · update #1

22 answers

Do you mean the Star of David??? Pentagram????

If you mean Pentagram:

Pentagram: from the Greek, "pente", meaning five and "gramma", a letter; the pentagram is a five pointed figure formed by producing the sides of a pentagon both ways to their point of intersection, so as to form a five-pointed star. Pentalpha: The triple triangle, from the Greek words meaning five and, alpha, the letter A. [1]


Capernaum, 300 CE. [5]
The pentagram (also called pentacle, pentalpha, pentancle, pentagle, or pentangle) is thought by some occultists to trace its esoteric significance to an astronomical observance of the pattern of Venus' conjunctions with the Sun and has had many meanings in many cultures through the ages. [2]
Although common usage often is to refer to depictions of a five-pointed star as pentagrams, a distinction can be made. The outline of the pentagram or "endless knot" is a five-pointed star, but the five-pointed star itself does not necessarily represent the pentagram. While religious fundamentalists rarely make any distinction, some occultists and modern Wiccans will make even further distinction and define the pentacle as the pentagram inside a pentagon or circle. Historically, the pentacle referred to any amulet, often incorporating an hexagram. "The words pentagram and pentacle (or pantacle) is not necessarily connected with the number 5. Pentacle probably comes from an old French word for 'to hang' and means a talisman or, by extension, any symbol used in magical operations." [7] There is little agreement on these distinctions.

Babylon, 900 BCE. [6]
A further distinction should be made for its usage in European heraldry where stars are generally termed estoiles or mullets. Estoiles, at least in England, will have six wavy rays. Unless specifically described, if the rays are straight the star is termed a mullet and has five points. It should also be pierced since, properly speaking, it does not represent a star but depicts the rowel of a spur. It has no connection with celestial stars or the pentagram. [3]
Éliphas Lévi claimed, with no justification or historical precedent, that the pentagram with one point upward represents the good principle and one downward, the evil. It should be noted that many subsequent authors have repeated this arbitrary distinction. [4]



from Fara [12]
(c. 2600 BCE)
What does
the pentagram
mean?

De Vogel, Goff and Van Buren [1] tell us that the use of the pentagram dates back to Uruk IV (c.3500BCE) in ancient Mesopotamia where the general sense seems to be "heavenly body." By the cuneiform period (post 2600 BCE) the pentagram or symbol UB means "region," "heavenly quarter" or "direction". "That this symbol always has a specific unambiquous meaning continues to be an unsupported hypothesis."[13] It is found on potsherds in the location of Uruk (near the mouth of the Gulf), and more frequently on Jemdet Nasr (3100-2900 BCE) and Proto-Elamite tablets (3000-2500 BCE). [10] Examples elsewhere are infrequent. [2]

0.618... : 1 : 1.618... [9]
Historically, it does not appear to be equated with Venus. Venus is equated with the Sumarian goddess, Ishtar (Ishhara, Irnini, Inanna) whose symbol is an eight or sixteen point star. Amongst the Hebrews, the five point symbol was ascribed to Truth and to the five books of the Pentateuch. In Ancient Greece, it was called the Pentalpha. Pythagorians considered it an emblem of perfection or the symbol of the human being. The pentagram was also associated with the golden ratio (which it includes), and the dodecahedron, the fifth Platonic solid, which has twelve pentagonal faces and was considered by Plato to be a symbol of the heavens. Burkert says that the pentagram had a secret significance and power to the pythagoreans, and was used as a password or symbol of recognition amongst themselves.[3]
Mackey says that as a talisman for health or good fortune,[18] the pentagram has been found on Egyptian statues and Gaulish coins. [14] He goes on to say, incorrectly, that Druids wore it on their sandals, hence the German Druttenfuss a word originally signifying Druid’s foot. [4] De Vogel cites Eisler for an example of a pentagram on an Attic red-figured cup from the early 5th cent, BCE. [15] Inman mentions what may be a common link between the Greeks, Aryans, and Etruscans; a coin bearing a pentagram and the characters PENSU (Etruscan for five) was found in a fictile urn at Volaterrae and is depicted in Fabretti’s Italian Glossery, plate xxvi., fig. 358, bis a. [5] During the Roman Republic the pentagram represented the building trades. [16] Its use in England may have been associated with the Druids, but was certainly not influenced by the Pythagoreans.[17]

Bronze coin, Pitane, Mysia, 300-400 BCE.
Solomonic texts of the Mediaeval period gave great importance to the pentagram, under the name "Solomon’s Seal." Gershom Scholem writes, "In Arabic magick, the ’seal of Solomon' was widely used, but at first its use in Jewish circles was restricted to relatively rare cases. Even then, the hexagram and pentagram were easily interchangeable and the name was applied to both figures." Latin versions of Solomonic texts, used the word "pentaculum" to refer to all the various circular devices associated with Solomon’s seal, even though most of them do not actually contain a pentagram. [6]
The first English mention of a pentagram appears In the legend of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Stanzas 27-28 (1380 c.) where Gawain, traditionally the Celtic sun-hero, carries a shield "...shining gules, With the Pentangle in pure gold depicted thereon."
It is a symbol which Solomon conceived once
To betoken holy truth, by its intrinsic right,
For it is a figure which has five points,
And each line overlaps and is locked with another;
And it is endless everywhere, and the English call it,
In all the land, I hear, the Endless Knot.
Here the pentacle represents the five wits, the five fingers, the five wounds of Christ, the five pure joys of Heaven’s queen with her child and the five virtues: generosity, fellowship, purity, courtesy and mercy.

Gold coin, 209 BCE. [7]
The upright pentagram resembles the shape of man with his legs and arms outstretched. Tycho Brahe, in his Calendarium Naturale Magicum Perpetuum (1582) illustrates a pentagram with human body imposed and the Hebrew for YHSVH associated with the elements. An illustration attributed to Brahe’s contemporary, Henry Cornelius Agrippa von Nettesheim, is of similar proportion and shows the five planets and the moon at the centre point. [†] Other illustrations of the period by Robert Fludd and Leonardo da Vinci show geometric relationships of man to the universe.
Mephistopheles, in Goethe’s Faust (1808) calls the pentagram a witch’s foot as a charm to guard against evil but doesn't determine its alignment:
Mephistopheles. Let me own up! I cannot go away;
A little hindrance bids me stay.
The witch’s foot upon your sill I see.
Faust. The pentagram? That’s in your way?
You son of Hell explain to me,
If that stays you, how came you in today?
And how was such a spirit so betrayed?
Mephistopheles. Observe it closely! It is not well made;
One angle, on the outer side of it,
Is just a little open, as you see.

The reference to it being open is ascribed to the contemporary knowledge that the planet Venus is not in exact resonance with Earth.
Jemdet Nasr [11]
In ancient times the "Star of the Sea" was sometimes depicted as an inverted pentagram. This may explain why those early American flags that displayed inverted stars — such as that flown by Commodore Matthew Perry in 1854 — were connected with the navy. [20]
Modern Wicca has developed its own significance for the pentagram, derived from a limited selection of sources : "A pentacle is a physical representation of the pentagram, a five-pointed star in a circle, which symbolizes the four elements in balance with Spirit and is drawn like this: [illust. one point up in circle].[21]
It can be seen, then, that the pentagram has evolved, from a pre-Christian symbol for a Mesopotamian city or later symbol for health or the heavens, to an early Christian symbol for Christ Transfigured, or truth, and then to a mediaeval talisman to guard against evil. Its re-emergence as a humanist or hermetic symbol of man’s relationship to the cosmos and its later reversal from a symbol guarding against evil to a symbol representing evil has been ascribed to many causes. Midwives and herbalists note that their practice of medicine has often been proscribed as witchcraft; their use of a symbol of health was as misunderstood as their own practices were reviled by paternalistic and oppressive theocracies. [8] Students of religious intolerance have noted that a symbol that can be ascribed to the Jews, Arabs or pagans will inevitably acquire negative connotations in the zenophobic climate of mediaeval Europe. These theories lose weight when the pentagram’s use by the medical profession of the 16th century is noted. [19] The root causes are difficult, if not impossible, to document. The only real fact to be gleaned from this history is that the pentagram had, and has, many meanings.



Jerusalem seal [9]
Is the
pentagram
a Christian
symbol?

Constantine’s seal[12]
The pentacle’s use in the City Seal of Jerusalem has led to its confusion with the variously titled Seal, Shield, or Star of Solomon. Early Christians attributed the pentagram to the Five Stigmata of Christ or the doctrine of the Trinity plus that of the two natures of Christ. According to Biedermann, from then until mediaeval times, it was a lesser-used Christian symbol. [1] Its form implied truth, religious mysticism and the work of Creator. Roman Emperor Constantine I, after his defeat of Maxentius and the issuance of the Edict of Milan in 312CE, ascribed his success to his conversion to Christianity and incorporated the pentagram, one point down, into his seal and amulet. [12]
Webber tells us that "...the five-pointed star signifies our Lord’s Epiphany" and that it is a symbol of the "revelation of the Christ Child to the Gentile wisemen." He warns that "It must not be used as a Christmas symbol." He also defined it as the Star of Jesse, or of Jacob and assigns it the meaning of Heavenly Wisdom. He illustrates it with one point up but doesn't define the alignment in his text. [2] Hume notes that "It was at one time used by the Greek Christians in liu of the cross at the beginning of inscriptions...." [3]
Templar gravestone, Tomar, Portugal
Although other authors have claimed the five-pointed star as a Christian symbol, describing it as the "Jesus' star" or the "Star in the East", a review of Christian art from the early Mediaeval period to the Renaissance will reveal few examples. [4] Becker refers to the pentagram as a symbol of Christ as Alpha and Omega, and as a symbol of the five wounds of Christ. The five-pointed star is also defined as a symbol of Christ, "the bright and morning star": and, inverted, one point down, it represents the descent of Christ — i.e., His Incarnation. [5] An early depiction, reproduced by Eckhardt, from a carving on a wall in the Baptistory of St. John at Split in Yugoslavia is dated from the eleventh century. The site was originally the Temple of Aescielapius, a god of medicine. [6] (Encyclopedia Britannica,vol. 11, p. 107, terms it a Temple of Jupiter.)
Baptistory of St. John [6]
While depictions of the five-pointed star or pentagram equating it with Jesus are rare, it should be also noted that they are non-existent in any depiction of the Devil or Satan before Éliphas Lévi’s nineteenth century Baphomet. [7]
There are a number of examples of the pentagram found on buildings of a religious or semi-religious nature in Europe. [13] Notable examples can be seen on gravestones in the Claustro da Lavagem in the Convento at Tomar, Portugal, the monastery of Ravna, Bulgaria and the Church of All Saints at Kilham, Humberside, Yorkshire, England, which incorporates the symbol on the columns which support the Norman doorway. [10] It is indented on the gateposts of the churchyard of S. Peter’s, Walworth, England, built in 1824. [11] There are also a number of examples in the sketchbook of thirteenth century stonemason, Villard de Honnecourt. [8]
Further examples of the pentagram’s use in Christian architecture can be found in a large carved inverted star in the centre of the north transept rose window of Amiens Cathedral in France, built between 1220 and 1410 C.E.; a huge inverted five-pointed star on the steeple of the Marktkirche, or Market Church in fourteenth century Hanover, Germany; the numerous inverted stars that surround a statue of Mary and the Christ Child in Chartres Cathedral circa 1150 C.E.; the interlaced star depicted in the "Berthold Missal" drawn in the Benedictine Abbey in Weingarten Germany circa 1225 C.E.; an inverted nativity star in the sculpted capital of a cloister pillar from the twelfth century C.E.; and various Orthodox paintings that illustrate the Mount of Transfiguration.[14]




Is the
pentagram a
masonic
symbol?

The masonic significance of the pentagram is controversial. While it often appears on masonic regalia and decorative illustration, nowhere is it mentioned in masonic rituals or lectures. This does not mean though, that individual freemasons, aware of its historical usage, have not used it to illustrate their own personal interpretations of Freemasonry.
The "Blazing Star" of masonic usage is not to be confused with the five-pointed star. Early tracing boards depict a sixteen or fifteen point star, one notable five pointed pentalpha and a number of "glories" with no discernable number of points. Mackey points out that the earlier tracing boards depicted a star with five straight points superimposed over one with five wavy points.
Freemasonry has traditionally been associated with Pythagoras, and among Pythagoreans, the pentagram was a symbol of health and knowledge; the pentagram is consequently associated with initiation, as it is in masonic iconography. From Coil’s Encyclopedia: "The Pentalpha is said to have had a great many symbolic and mystical meanings, but it has no application to Freemasonry...."
Mackey tells us "The Medieval Freemason considered it a symbol of deep wisdom, and it is found among the architectural ornaments of most of the ecclesiastical edifices of the Middle Ages." There are also many examples of both the pentagram and five-pointed star being used as stonemasons' marks during the Mediaeval cathedral building period. Although claims have been made for earlier usage, the greater number of examples date from the twelfth through sixteenth centuries. [1] George Godwin claims that these marks were handed down from generation to generation and could still be found up until the nineteenth century. [2]
One notable early use of a pentalpha in Freemasonry is the mark of Sir Robert Moray, who used it when he signed the Minutes of the Lodge of Edinburgh, Mary’s Chapel sometime after his initiation on May 20, 1641. He is recorded as using it in his signature prior to this date so, although he referred to it as his mason’s mark, it was not derived from masonic teachings. Later it appears on the titlepage of a collection of masonic lectures, The Spirit of Masonry, published in 1775.
The use of a five-pointed star or pentagram in some Grand Lodge seals and banners as well as on the collar or jewels of office worn by the masters of lodges and Grand Masters of Grand Lodges is of interest to students of masonic history and art. But its absence from the ritual and lessons of Freemasonry point out that its value is ornamental and any symbolic value is a matter of personal opinion. Many masonic authors have expressed their opinions on the topic, but with no masonic authority.
The pentagram, or five-pointed star, can be interpreted as a representation of the golden ratio. The golden ratio was of great importance to architects and stonecutters. Whether early freemasons made this interpretation is a topic of some controversy.
Those who would freeze the angle of the compasses in the masonic square and compasses at 72° to equate it with the pentagram, ignore the many representations which set the angle at anywhere between 32° and 90°.
As regards that appendant body, the Order of the Eastern Star, Mackey notes that Rob Morris, author of their ritual, wrote that the choice of name was made to correspond to the masonic Five Points of Fellowship and the pentagon which he termed "The signet of King Solomon."



Lévi
Is the
pentagram
with two points
ascendant a
symbol for
Satan?

It has long been a truism within occult circles that the pentagram, when one point is ascendant, is a symbol for the positive principle, and when two points are ascendant it is a symbol for the negative principle.
This is derived from a claim made by Éliphas Lévi that the direction of the rays of the pentagram determine if it represents the good or evil principle: one point up representing order and light, two points up representing disorder and darkness. Lévi gives no justification or citation for this arbitrary distinction and goes on to arbitrarily equate the pentagram as a symbol for the Baphomet or goat headed god. [1] This ignores, or distorts, the pentagram’s inclusion, one point down, in Constantine’s seal, the later mediaeval depiction of it as a medical symbol of health, and its Christian representation as a symbol of the Transfiguration of Christ.
Aleistar Crowley wrote that the point down pentagram indicates the individual (microcosm) in a "Solar orientation", meaning not "earth oriented". Also that it had been used as a symbol of the Baphomet, the great androgyne. He interpreted the "averse" pentagram to indicate the New Aeon transcendance of the old Osirian/Christian limitations. [2]
No known graphical illustration associating the pentagram with evil appears until Lévi in the nineteenth century. The Inquisition of the early 1300s does not appear to have made a connection between the pentagram and the Knights Templar’s alleged worship of the Baphomet. Neither the Rule of the Order, the eleven charges against the Knights Templar, nor the eight Papal Bulls promulgated against them make any mention of the pentagram or its association with the Baphomet. Claims that the pentagram was significant to the Templars appear to be unfounded. Its use in hermetic manuscripts is rare. [See Appendix I for additional illustrations.]
It is only in the later twentieth century, and the creation of the American Church of Satan, that the inverted pentagram has become a popular symbol for Satan. They ascribe its usage to its appearance in Oswald Wirth’s La Franc-Maçonnerie rendue intelligible a ces adeptes II, "Le compagnon," Paris: Derry-Livres, 1931, p. 60.



Agrippa (1531) [2]
Is there
a link between Satan and Lucifer?

There is no Biblical authority to claims that Lucifer and Satan are names for the same being.
In Revelation, Jesus referred to himself as the bright and morning star (Rev 22:16). In 1263 Pope Clement V commissioned the Franciscan monk, Roger Bacon, to investigate apparent problems arising from this translation. Bacon discovered papers by Jerome where, on his deathbed, the latter recanted the Latin Vulgate translation due to errors caused by haste. Jerome particularly singled out the Isaian translations. Bacon’s report that "Lucifer" was the Messiah and not the devil earned him incarceration until he recanted. [1]



Jerusalem seal [1]
Is there a link between the pentagram and Venus?

A curious, and somewhat astronomically irrelevent, occurance of cyclical positions of Venus will determine the points of a pentagram figure in the morning or evening sky during certain times of the year. Plotting the recurrence of Venus' westward elongation from the Sun, over six consecutive synodic periods, will create the points of a pentagram. Historically though, the pentagram has not been a symbol for Venus, neither planet nor goddess.



Medal of Honor (USA)
How is the pentagram used today?

Recalling the distinction between a pentagram, or endless knot, and a five-pointed star; the pentagram is rarely used outside of esoteric or occult circles. Its use in promoting rock music — specifically heavy metal — is noteworthy only as an example of the evolution of the symbol and the lack of real content.
That said, the five-pointed star, as a symbol of power and authority, bravery, honour and virtue, is an ever-present icon. Almost exclusively depicted with one point up, the five-pointed star is found on police badges, military vehicles, fourteen American state flags and on at least forty-five national flags. The Moroccan flag is the only one to depict the pentagram. A rare usage with one point down can be found on the American Congressional Medal of Honor.
Further study would reveal many other uses of the five-pointed star in corporate logos, commercial advertising, cinema, popular culture, and in all forms of graphic design. It is not exclusive to any one nationality, religion, faith or creed. IT SIMPLY REPRESENTS WHAT THE USER WANTS IT TO REPRESENT.


I get "Thumbs Down" for giving a detailed (and CORRECT) answer???? LMAO!!! You people crack me up!!! Oh well, gotta' love America!

2006-10-05 05:59:22 · answer #1 · answered by Boodie 5 · 1 4

It's a pentagram. The star represents Spirt, Earth, Air, Fire, Water. The circle around it means that the elements of the Earth are never ending.

2016-03-18 05:10:59 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Combined with specific colors and inverted, it's also the symbol for Eastern Stars, a masonic organization associated with Master Masons, Rainbow, DeMolay, Shriner's and Job's Daughters, all highly religious organizations and not in the least associated with any Wiccan or demonic religions.

Pentagrams have many uses and it simply depends upon WHY and WHAT you neeeeeeeeeed to know...

2006-10-05 06:09:40 · answer #3 · answered by dragonwing 4 · 0 0

It is a pentagram and religiously has a root in Kabbalist Judaism. As such it has been regarded by Christian religions as a sign of the devil, though this is purely bad press.

It is in fact a mathematical model, and along with many other early math knowledge (Pi, c, e, Trig & calculus) was seen by the early Catholic church as heretical because science demystified religion. The early church was afraid that if science spread, people would lose their faith because things regarded as miracles might be explained and copied by anyone. (Look at the fuss Darwinism caused, and still causes today) This kind of knowledge was defined as 'occult' which simply means hidden.
Especially with the growth of the printed word, and TV & film, the occult has been exploited to make scary books and films.
Odd to think that 400 years ago you might have been killed for knowing that the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides in a right-angled triangle!
You have nothing to fear from this symbol.

PS Ignore the Da Vinci Code, it is rubbish as a factual research aid, and ignore anyone who mentions Wicca, because Wicca was invented in Victorian England, and has no real pagan value. The ancient Druidic sects used no writing or symbols, their knowledge being passed by tongue. Hence there are no markings on the stones in stone circles.

2006-10-05 06:08:21 · answer #4 · answered by SteveUK 5 · 0 2

You mean the upside down star inscribed inside a circle?
There are many things people say this represents (The devil, witchcraft, death, etc)--But the reality of the situation is that the original meanings of this symbol are lost in the mysts of time, no matter what they are now, and no matter what the Da Vinci Code speculates (YES--speculates. the book does not present fact.)
(Did you know that in the Da Vinci Code, they said that the Pentagram was going to be the original sign for the olympics over a thousand years ago, but the Five Rings were chosen as a last minute replacement, over a thousand years ago? In reality, the Five Rings were designed in 1913 and first used in the games in 1920. It's amazing how a simple, lying book can change a nation.)
Back to the subject, I beleive now it means witchcraft.

2006-10-05 06:00:35 · answer #5 · answered by nicholaswright2006 3 · 0 4

A star into a circle can mean many things, but it's called a pentegram. In Wicca, it represents the elements Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Spirit. To most Christian cultures, it represents the five places where Christ was said to be wounded.

2006-10-05 05:59:49 · answer #6 · answered by How could I have burned paradise 1 · 2 1

The origins of this symbol (the pentacle or pentagram) are pagan. They refer to feminism. There are groups of people who have transformed this into a satanic symbol (some have turned the two points up and one point down and warped it into a goat's or devil's head). It really depends on the context for the user.

According to The Davinci Code: "the pentacle is a symbol for the divine feminine, then Christians made it evil in order to oust non-believers."

2006-10-05 06:02:26 · answer #7 · answered by majestx523 2 · 1 3

You mean a pentagram. It is a Wiccan symbol.

An upside down, or inverted pentagram represents the Satanic religion.

2006-10-05 05:59:02 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

A five pointed star would be a Pentagram used in commonly in Satanic Rituals.

2006-10-05 06:05:15 · answer #9 · answered by renegadeslawdawg 2 · 0 2

Pentagram. And no it doesn't necessarily mean devil worship.

The Pentagram has magical associations, and many people who practice pagan or neopagan faiths (e.g. Wiccan) wear them. Christians once commonly used the pentagram to represent the five wounds of Jesus, and it also has associations within Freemasonry.

2006-10-05 05:58:42 · answer #10 · answered by PJ 3 · 2 2

This is a real good website for answering this ???? It gives the history of the star and what it means. Hope it helps!!

2006-10-05 06:01:37 · answer #11 · answered by KatheeVonE 3 · 1 1

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