In the old days the wags (wives & girlfriends) of gay men were called their "beards" or in other words their disguise...some Christians want us back in the closet... what's new?
2006-10-05 00:43:48 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
If they could turn back time...If they could find a way!!!
2006-10-05 00:44:56 · update #1
Reply to Jeff M:
Gues what you just told everybody about yourself...
2006-10-05 01:01:41 · update #2
Reply to sanangel:
So I guess you are saying the ex-gay thing worked for you huh!...that's great. So do you feature at the local gents more nowadays than when you used to go be out and go to gay clubs?
2006-10-05 02:11:39 · update #3
yes, I believe that's true. you can't change who you innately are. if you are emotionally week, and have no self esteem and allow homophobes/bible-thumpers to shame you into "conversion therapy" (and we know all it is is brain-washing), you're only lying to yourself and everyone else. you're still gay....you've just been shoved/shoved yourself back in the closet. and you can't truly be happy that way....not for long.
2006-10-05 02:01:00 · answer #1 · answered by redcatt63 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Yes, that's exactly what it is. They are preached to that their lifestyle, if the continue to be gay, will ultimately lead them to hell... and they are made to feel guilty and sinful because they are homosexual. So, they go back into the closet and act straight. No matter how much they tell you that they are no longer gay, what they really mean is that they no longer DO gay things- they lie and deny their true selves.
2006-10-05 08:31:43 · answer #2 · answered by pceej 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Yes, that is true. The fundamental churches have no time for gay people -- unless they "convert". You might as well try to change being tall, or being left-handed, or having blue eyes. So, for gay people to get saved/converted, it simply means that they are repressing their true sexuality and trying to conform to the wants of others: people pleasing.
Oil and water do not mix -- it's best to avoid those types who have designs on the lifestyles of others. One would never be able to satisfy them, and they would never trust gays. There will always be suspicion amongst the religious types regarding gays.
2006-10-05 01:18:52 · answer #3 · answered by SB 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Now there's an added dimension of meanness to it--these people are used to "prove" that gays can change, and therefore don't need civil rights protections. Which is stupid, because religion is also a protected category, and clearly chosen and changeable.
2006-10-05 01:57:03 · answer #4 · answered by GreenEyedLilo 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
sanangel:
Your thoughts, opinions, and beliefs on the subject of homosexuality are amusing.
It is a sad thing that so many people are so misinformed
I tried for ten years to be a straight person. I was very involved with my church, I read my bible and prayed every day... and I believed that if I did what my parents and pastor said, God would take away this undeniable need to love and be loved by another man. I sincerely trusted that what they told me was true. I did not engage in homosexual activity of any kind until the very end of that decade of denial and self hate. I daily begged god on my hands and knees, sobbing, to take this away from me. I was taken to the brink of suicide, trying so very hard to be something that I wasn't.
I am offended when people like you reduce my struggle to a flippant matter of "choice." I am disgusted when you insist that I should live my entire life that way. It is revolting that people like you claim to know the heart and mind of God.
Your god may, in fact, hate homosexuality. Good for him. Whatever your god needs to do to feel good about himself. This is the same god that thinks women should be secluded while on their periods... and that anything she come into contact with during that time is unclean and must be burnt. This is also the same god that gives detailed instructions on how to sell your children as slaves.
That is not my God. Lucky for you and me both, we have the freedom in this country to worship whatever god we choose. I suggest that you not insist that everybody worship YOUR god the way YOU do... so that in the future nobody has the legal backing to insist that you worship THEIR god.
It is vile and disturbing that so many people think that gay people should go through their entire lives PRETENDING to be straight just to make you and your hateful god feel better.
Go through your life focusing on sin instead of salvation if you want to, but I demand more out of life than that.
Perhaps the problem is you just need to get a life.
To answer the question... Yes, as the retard I responded to claims, many Christians DO want us to stay in the closet. They really do. ...and they will lie, cheat, and steal to get their way.
2006-10-05 03:13:48 · answer #5 · answered by Dustin Lochart 6 · 3⤊ 2⤋
Yes, especially concidering the leaders of little cults like that have been caught in the past cruising the bars for tricks.
2006-10-05 02:06:17 · answer #6 · answered by IndyT- For Da Ben Dan 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Ex-gays are still gay and still secretly yearn for the intimacy from those of the same sex.
The fact they repress and deny this desire does not mean they cease to become gay.
They are self-loathing, delusional gays.
alot of 'former gay' men make alot of MONEY from holding motivational seminars and CD's and video tapes and other such merchandise from claiming to 'cure' homosexuality. Ex-gay is an INDUSTRY!
2006-10-05 00:55:07 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 1⤋
Yeah, maybe that should be a new phrase - instead of qualifying as "born again", maybe "ex-gays" should have little badges - "I'm closeted again, praise Jesus!"
2006-10-05 23:23:23 · answer #8 · answered by mdfalco71 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That is absolutely true. If you are gay, you are gay. You can pretend to be straight if you feel pressure from the church but all you are doing is lying to yourself and everyone else.
2006-10-05 00:46:54 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 0⤋
very true!
It does not appear that sexual orientation can be changed or altered. Whether through psychotherapy, religious experiences, or other means, there is virtually no likelihood that one's sexual orientation can be permanently changed. While our sexual behavior may be quite variable, orientation is more stable. A heterosexual person can no more be "changed" to be homosexual than a gay or lesbian person can be "made" heterosexual. Psychotherapies or religious organizations that claim to change sexual orientation focus on changing sexual behavior, not sexual orientation. Gay, lesbian, and bisexual people can best be helped by accepting who they are, rather than trying to change who they are.
2006-10-05 00:51:02 · answer #10 · answered by Bearable 5 · 6⤊ 0⤋