My husband is up for a disciplinary at work for an accident which wasn't his fault, a company lorry reversed into his company vehicle.
However, because there were two men in the lorry they are sticking together with their story and saying that they didn't see him, but my husband is being done for being off route, which he was slightly but he was on his way back to the depot and decided to grab a sandwich on his way back, but is this really a cause for a disciplinary meeting because the lorry driver should have looked for other vehicles before reversing shouldn't he?
2006-10-02 22:37:34 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
Prove that your husband did not commit any irregularity. The labor laws usually favor employees in the adjudication of cases.
2006-10-02 22:41:11 · answer #1 · answered by FRAGINAL, JTM 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
First of all, when a lorry is reversing you have to provide a 'banksman' in the UK to stay in line with health and safety at work requirements. The fact that they didn't see your husbands vehicle parked there means that there was no 'banksman' or tha he didn't do his job properly. You know there could have been a very important client standing there in the wrong place. Would they have hit him instead? Anyway, having reverse beepers on the lorry is just not enough. There might be a deaf person who doesn't know a vehicle is reversing, that's why you have another man (the 'banksman') to check for these things, and other. So, your husband should not be having a discipinary hearing, instead, all personnel must be sent a memo or something to tell them that in the future off rout parking will be not tolerated and may result in wheelclamping or other restrictions.
2006-10-02 22:56:41 · answer #2 · answered by Luvfactory 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sounds like a real snafu for your husband.... I use to work at a very large energy company that had company vehicles and I wondered about certain circumstances if there was an accident I was involved with.... I realized in some instances I could seriously jeopardize my job if I was grossly at fault. In this instance it sounds like your husband is in trouble cause there is an eyewitness collaborating the story of the other driver. Unless you can get an eye witness to back up your husband there is little he can do. If there was no injuries or serious damage he may not get too much in trouble but just a little bit in trouble. You might ask him to return to the area where there was the accident and look to see if any of the local business had a video camera on the area of the accident- someone might have it on video tape.
The company is obligated to follow the way the courts review accidents that is to say they must take the word of two people over one. Your husband may be best off playing it as low key as possible allowing the accident to blow over the course of time. He may just get a small black mark on his company record that most will forget about in a year or two. As for being off route it should not be that severe people go off route all the time just be honest about that... most will be able to detect his honesty regarding the lunch.
If he should get too emotional and obstinate contradicting the two other fellow employees he will probably look worst off then he already is being perceived by his bosses. If he just "takes it like a man" he may be better off even though they are wrong and he is right. Many times companies just don't look at you if you are right or wrong but look more at how you weathered adversity. So it sounds like it may be a case of having to bite your tongue and lip. I hope in the end it works out ok for him.
It may be best for him to write down what happened just to have a personal record- It is good idea to keep a diary at your job to cover yourself for any incidents like this one . Some day that might come in handy.
2006-10-02 23:05:50 · answer #3 · answered by hearts_pool_chess 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
All driver's are responsible for the safe operation of their vehicle. Since the lorry driver hit your husband, no matter where your husband was or wasn't supposed to be, it is still their fault I think. They could have hit anything at that point: A pedestrian, a motorcyclist, or another lorry.
2006-10-02 22:40:31 · answer #4 · answered by Fun and Games 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
obviously the should have been looking, but the fact is that the insurance has to pay out somewhere and you'll probably find that there disaplining him more over the fact that he was off route, the company isn't covered when the car isn;t where it is supposed to be unless there has been a divertion of traffic. Its the same with alot of companys, buses lorrys etc.
2006-10-02 22:41:32 · answer #5 · answered by Jo. 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes you are not allowed to eat or buy sandwiches when you work, companies expect you to go over your driving hours, work like a dog, then they discipline you when you make one small mistake. My thoughts are with you as this can be so stressful, companies look for any small dismeaner to get rid of you these days as they do not want honest workers they want all the drivers on franchise or agency staff. We are going back to victorian slave labour where the worker dare not speak up.
2006-10-06 09:15:05 · answer #6 · answered by Freda 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
He shouldn't have been where a truck was reversing, he should have spotted the manoeuvre. However the HGV driver should have seen him move into his area and unless the passenger was out of the truck directing him he wouldn't have seen anything if it was articulated and if it was rigid the driver shouldn't have need help! The company should be concerned that one of their truck drivers did this and it was fortunate for them that it was on their property and not with a member of public. but knowing hauliers they do have their favourites that can do no wrong!
2006-10-02 22:46:39 · answer #7 · answered by john g 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i imagine you want to sit down and characteristic a verbal substitute together with her before each little thing and redefine the obstacles. Use this time to inform her that you've been noticing her doing some issues that you do not approve of (of direction state them) and tell her that you needed to inform her what the punishments will be from this factor ahead so she will be able to carry close the consequences of her movements and then she will be able to chosen no matter if to nonetheless act up. regularly i will assign an better chore and then get rid of a privledge together. case in factor if her room isn't picked up each day like it really is going to be then i'd assign her an better room contained in the living house to sparkling and keep tidy for the week like possibly the lavatory and then also get rid of t.v privledges for the week. continually, I supply my boys one caution earlier I supply the punishment, no longer to furnish excuses yet for them to fix the mission because toddlers will regularly forget the obtrusive and not in any respect continually on purpose. the base line is to be mushy yet agency. do no longer enable them communicate you into giving in. And be consistant!
2016-11-26 00:15:54 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Take someone sensible with you and Keep cool
Listen to the meeting and decide what the issues are
is it damage to
or is it being off route
expect other issues ie past performance
say nothing and request a reasonable time ( at least 1 week) to consider your position
the meeting should then be adjourned at this point. giving you time to seek further advice.
2006-10-02 22:49:08 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
yes they should have loOKed when reversing he should be able to claim and if the company is good they will help him through this it is the over drivers fault not your husbands his he ok
2006-10-02 22:40:53 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋