Who was the last real prince of Wales?

Question

Please don't say Charles(the current prince of Wales) ,the Title was stolen when the English defeted the Welsh in the 11th century.and from then on the first male first born of the English monok would be crowned the prince of Wales

Answer 1

Llywelyn ap Gruffydd (Llewelyn The Last)

(c. 1228–December 11, 1282) was the last prince of an independent Wales before its conquest by Edward I of England. In Welsh, he is remembered as Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf (Our Last Leader).

He was one of the four sons of Gruffydd, the illegitimate son of Llywelyn the Great. Opinions vary as to whether Llywelyn was the second or third son, but he was definitely not the eldest. Having fought off the opposition of his uncles and of his eldest brother, he laid claim to the principality of Gwynedd in 1258, and took the title Prince of Wales, which was then virtually a new concept. He was recognised as such by Henry III of England in the Treaty of Montgomery in 1267. However, Llywelyn's territorial ambitions gradually made him unpopular with some of the other Welsh leaders, particularly the princes of south Wales.

Although a capable military leader, Llywelyn lacked the political acumen of his grandfather, and made an unnecessary enemy of King Edward I of England by continuing to ally himself with the family of Simon de Montfort even after a precarious peace with the English had been concluded. Edward took exception to Llywelyn's marriage contract with Simon's daughter, Eleanor, seized the ship carrying her from France to Wales, and kept her prisoner at Windsor until Llywelyn made certain concessions. They were eventually married at Worcester in 1278.

Unusually for a Welsh prince, Llywelyn had no heirs (illegitimate sons being allowed by Welsh law to inherit), and depended on Eleanor to provide him with one. In 1282, she gave birth to a daughter, Gwenllian, but died in doing so, an event which seems to have had a serious emotional impact on Llywelyn. It was at this point that his younger brother, Dafydd, launched an attack on the English. Llywelyn felt obliged to support his brother, and a war began for which the Welsh were ill-prepared. Llywelyn's capable military leadership might still have prevailed, but he was ambushed and killed at Cilmeri, near Builth Wells, while attempting to rally support in south Wales. It was not until some time later that an English knight recognised the body as that of the prince. His head was then severed and delivered to London, where it was paraded through the streets.

With the loss of Llywelyn, Welsh morale and the will to resist diminished, and Dafydd, having declared himself Llywelyn's successor, was forced to flee into the mountains. He was betrayed, captured and executed by Edward I. His wife and sons ended their lives in captivity. Llywelyn's daughter, Gwenllian, was sent to the convent of Sempringham in Lincolnshire, where she died in her fifties.

Edward I sought to appease the Welsh by promising them their very own prince, who would speak not a word of English. The chosen candidate was his newborn son, who was two young to speak a word of anything. This was the person given the title "Prince of Wales" by the Plantagenets and this is the title inherited by Prince Charles.

Further details about Llywelyn's family background can be found on this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llywelyn_the_Last

Answer 2

Edward VIII, the first son of all monarchs become prince of wales he was the son of George v

EDWARD VIII (r. JANUARY-DECEMBER 1936)

As Prince of Wales, Edward VIII (reigned January-December 1936) had successfully carried out a number of regional visits (including areas hit by economic depression) and other official engagements. These visits and his official tours overseas, together with his good war record and genuine care for the underprivileged, had made him popular.

The first monarch to be a qualified pilot, Edward created The King's Flight (now known as 32 (The Royal) Squadron) in 1936 to provide air transport for the Royal family's official duties.

In 1930, the Prince, who had already had a number of affairs, had met and fallen in love with a married American woman, Mrs Wallis Simpson. Concern about Edward's private life grew in the Cabinet, opposition parties and the Dominions, when Mrs Simpson obtained a divorce in 1936 and it was clear that Edward was determined to marry her.

Eventually Edward realised he had to choose between the Crown and Mrs Simpson who, as a twice-divorced woman, would not have been acceptable as Queen.

On 10 December 1936, Edward VIII executed an Instrument of Abdication which was given legal effect the following day, when Edward gave Royal Assent to His Majesty's Declaration of Abdication Act, by which Edward VIII and any children he might have were excluded from succession to the throne.

In 1937, Edward was created Duke of Windsor and married Wallis Simpson in a ceremony in France.

During the Second World War, the Duke of Windsor escaped from Paris, where he was living at the time of the fall of France, to Lisbon in 1940. The Duke of Windsor was then appointed Governor of the Bahamas, a position he held until 1945.

He lived abroad until the end of his life, dying in 1972 in Paris (he is buried at Windsor).

Edward was never crowned; his reign lasted only 325 days. His brother Albert became King, using his last name George.

Answer 3

Sorry it is Charles. The title wasn't usurped it was created for the first born of the english throne.

Llewellyn was Prince of Gwynedd. Wales has never in its history been an independent nation. The only time it has been all under one political umbrella is when it was part of the Roman Empire and part of England.

Answer 4

the only good thing that comes out of wales is the road to england,and prince charles is the rightfull prince of wales and lets face it who else would want the bloody job, ps,what is a welsh rarebit,answer a virgin from cardiff,

Answer 5

I think you may have some unresolved issues here.
Lets face it, after 900 years you still think the title is usurped, yet Wales was only united as a whole kingdom for 110 years before that.

Answer 6

Llewelyn, The Last Prince of Wales

Edward I became King of England in 1272, but it was only when he returned from the Crusades in 1274 that he had to confront the problem of Wales. Llewelyn, Prince of Gwynedd, and Edward were old rivals. When Edward was an inexperienced youth, Llewelyn had taken advantage of England's troubles under Henry III to impose his rule on the Welsh chieftains of Powys and seize English lands. He overran the disputed coastal borderland between Chester and Gwynedd. The treaty of 1267 recognized him as overlord of all Welsh barons and hereditary Prince of Wales.

Prince Llewelyn had managed to form a unified Wales under his leadership, but faced problems in holding together all the quarrelsome parts of his kingdom. There was resistance to Llewelyn's authority among the minor Welsh princes, as well as from the semi-independent lords of the Marches. Llewelyn sought to be ruler, not only of Gwynedd but all of Wales. He was deeply conscious of his country's right to nationhood, and raised in bardic folklore. He stated his claim in a letter to Edward after the refusal of the royal authorities to grant him the right to build an unlicensed castle on his own land in the Marches of Montgomery.

In 1277, Edward I invaded Wales in a campaign that left nothing to chance, was able to defeat Llewelyn's army who was forced to pay homage to the king and surrender some of his dominions to him. Later on, his brother Prince David and him rebelled against Edward, was successful at first and David was pursued but was betrayed by his own countrymen.

Llwelyn ap Gruffudd, on the run from the forces of Edward I, was killed attacking the Mortimers at Orewin Bridge in the Marches. David was tried in London and executed in 1283. The heads of Llewelyn and David were stuck on spikes and left to rot outside the Tower of London.

In 1284, Edward's wife gave birth to a prince at Caernarvon. The king showed the little prince to the Welsh people as their new Prince of Wales. From that moment on, the heir to the English throne has carried that title, but to the Welsh, Llewelyn will always be known as Llewelyn the Last.

Answer 7

Llywellyn Ein Llyw Olaf!! AKA....Llywelyn ap Gruffudd

And it was actually the 13th centuary!!!

Answer 8

the answer you don't want to hear is ...
Charles Mountbatten Windsor
your undoubted Prince

Answer 9

It wasn't really "stolen." To the victor goes the spoils.

Answer 10

oh yeah I heard about that. His name was Richard, I think. I am not sure.
I am probably wrong. But there were these two young princes locked in the tower or something... I do not know the whole story.

I am sorry.