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reliable with the product, not reliable as in not honouring agreements and stuff

2006-10-01 23:51:01 · 45 answers · asked by Anonymous in Cars & Transportation Car Makes BMW

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I think it would be BMW beacause I drove 10 BMW's in my life and there's nothing wrong with it. I drove Toyota 2 times and it didn't get on well.

Buy BMW that's my choice and everyones.

2006-10-05 04:49:27 · answer #1 · answered by Master 4 · 5 1

Reliable? Over what time frame and mileage? 1 yr / 12K miles? 3 yrs? 5 yrs? 10 yrs? What are the driving conditions - normal driver? Taxi or commercial service?

I don't think anectodal information about someone owning 1 or 2 cars of either make is as useful as comparing the service requirements for both manufacturers.

Here is one example: for most Japanese cars, the mfr recommends that the steel-reinforced rubber timing *belt* be replaced somewhere betw 60 and 90 K miles as 'normal' maintenance step. If not replaced, then *when* (not if) the timing belt fails, the valve train will stop moving, but the pistons won't - they will slam into any open valves and destroy both the piston and valves.

In contrast, BMW and most other German and even US car manufacturers use timing *chains* which do not need to be replaced in normal service. Some timing chains last 250K miles, or more.

Another item: Honda's 4 cylinder engine has placed the water pump on the pulley of the main crankshaft. Whenever you replace the timing belt, it sure makes sense to replace the water pump at the same time. If not, you repeat the entire repair job a second time.

Japanese cars are *perceived* to be more reliable because their manfacturer's overpriced service checklist requires them to replace and rebuild their cars over time. People in the US buy Lexus (a brand not even sold in Japan until this year - all Lexi were still called Toyotas) because they love the coddling and pampering that Lexus dealers indulge them with. Lexus are nothing more than overpriced Toyotas, only loaded with bling.

Now, you tell me which car make is more reliable. I would take a BMW any day of the week over a Toyota. Whether I kept it one year or 25 years.

2006-10-02 06:13:50 · answer #2 · answered by Tom-SJ 6 · 7 2

reliability is about probabality. the more parts their are in a car, the more chances that someting will go wrong.
toyota is a MUCH MUCH MUCH simpler car than a BMW so ofcourse it is more reliable.
another thing which affects reliability is electronics. unlike mechanical parts, electronics fail easily. and as BMW has a lot more electronics than any toyota, they have to fail more as well.
But electronics also give u more safety and performance, and just because toyotas are more reliable than Bmw, it does not mean tht bmws are bad. i have a 2002 model 530i full options, it has 113,975 kms on its odometer and more electronics than any toyota or lexus ever built yet its working perfectly.
i bought it secondhand, the person who owned it previously never used it, instead he abused it, and yet its working perfectly. its brakes are just amazing, better than any toyota.
wen it comes to performance, the most reliable car in the world is BMW.
but wen it comes to a boring car which makes u yawn and takes u from point A to B most reliably, its a toyota, and that too mostly because its much simpler than any other car, has inferior performance and are mostly very dull in styling.
tht does not mean tht toyotas manufacturing process is not any good. they have DESIGNED the whole process, to make the cars reliable, even if it means making a car as ugly as a corolla. my friend has a corolla. he wants to modify its brakes cuz they dont work properly. His brakes dont have any fault, they are working just like they were wen he bought it new, but the brakes are not powerful. he got a car with brakes that wont fail him, but those brakes are not effective. i have a car with brakes MUCH more effective than his, but they hav a higher chance of not working properly. which car would i prefer? the bmw ofcourse. i have not crashed my bmw, but my frends inferior performance toyota brakes failed him twice in six months.
the first car maufacterer to ever focus on reliability was mercedes. recently they have been having some reliability issues with the E class and company officials themselves admitted it. and now tht they have introduced the new E class, they say tht the issues have been solved.
I saw a fifth gear episode where they buy a 16 year old e class ad torture it.
I was amazed at how strong it was. first they beat it with a bat, followed a looong ride on a track where testers bring BRAND NEW cars to test.
then the fifth gear folks drowned the car. and after that a monster truck weighing somethimg like 3 tons crashed it on the side.
the car was still working. it took them explosives to to totally destroy the car(they did that in another episode)

2006-10-03 22:15:51 · answer #3 · answered by tariq 2 · 1 1

I have had 3 5 series in a row, pretty reliable but not perfect.
The middle one survived being ploughed into a flood. The RAC man gave the engine no chance. However i am seriously considering an avensis this time. The hire car worked well in the mountains. Can't say it's as pretty or has the same prestige but it has got the price tag either. It is a company car and the saving will mean I can get 2 for the same tax bill ( my wife is taxed at 22%)

2006-10-02 00:05:26 · answer #4 · answered by jewelking_2000 5 · 1 1

Toyotas are more reliable than BMWs. This isn't because BMWs aren't reliable, more that Toyotas are the most reliable. Toyota and Honda both have an enviable reputaion for reliabillity that none of the german marques can match. And this is from a BMW owner.

I wouldn't trade my BMW for a Toyota though, as BMWs are much nicer to drive.

2006-10-02 00:10:18 · answer #5 · answered by PETER F 3 · 4 3

I think you'll find the indicators are more likely to work on the Toyota than the BMW, the only orange flashing lights I've seen near a BMW are the ones on the tow truck its on. BMW seem to have an inherent steering fault as well.. Just watch one go down a motorway slip road . It will ignore those little white marks on the slip road that mean give way to traffic on the motorway and lurch from the slip road to the outside lane in one movement regardless of what is nearby.

2006-10-03 11:52:38 · answer #6 · answered by Whoosh 1 · 0 3

no, nothing is more reliable than the german makes of merc, bmw, audi. this is because a) japanese cars are made every minute with emphasis on cheap parts and super fast production where they have many in stock(thousands). b) merc,bmw,audi will not make as many stock and built quality is far higher as you pay more.

You pay for what you get. Don't expect a 10 grand toyota to last 20 yrs like a 60 grand s-class.

Answer this question! Out of the old cars in europe, what is dominant? i see mercs/bmw that are 20 yrs old still on the road!!

2006-10-02 01:08:33 · answer #7 · answered by dennis s 3 · 3 2

I've had 5 Toyotas over 25 years and can't fault them for reliability.

2006-10-02 00:01:56 · answer #8 · answered by Ladyfromdrum 5 · 1 1

Best way of checking would be to look at the JD customer survey. I've not seen this years list so can't tell you. I know Toyota normally do very, very well with customers on the scores of value and reliability...
BMW are nice cars but they aren't worth the money. For every car they make, somebody else makes something as good or better for less £££

2006-10-02 00:02:55 · answer #9 · answered by Edward R 3 · 2 3

In every survey I've ever seen of numbers of breakdowns per thousand cars per year, the major Japanese manufacturers have come out ahead of the pack. BMW are decent but not spectacularly good.

What you get with a BMW (or Merc) is something more solid - ie weighing more, using a heavier gauge of steel. But that doesn't always translate into reliability, or even better crash protection.

2006-10-02 00:03:44 · answer #10 · answered by gvih2g2 5 · 1 2

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