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I need something beyond "be consistant and stay tough". What do I do with the students who I can not reason with?

2006-10-01 08:49:54 · 9 answers · asked by misjes2000 4 in Education & Reference Teaching

I DO have the expectations set up. Not all the students act up, only a handful. Admin at my school have discussed with me that these students are used to being able to argue with adults and WIN. I do not argue with them and I take the appropriate discipline steps. I HAVE assigned an essay and I have recieved back this response.... "I aint changin' for YOU or for anyone!" What do I do with that? Several students have that attitude. Also, you make me seem like a bad teacher... thats not whats up! Thats kind of rude!

2006-10-01 09:05:10 · update #1

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My top tip is praise. You have about 20 nice kids in your class who are probably feeling a bit left out because the badly behaved ones steal the show. Kids this age are sticker hungry.
Give stickers and postcards home for being well behaved.

Obviously, this will take time and you need on the spot action you can take when they step out of line.
Get a few index cards and write "You are being rude. Please be more polite. Return this card to me in person before break time" Drop them on their desks when they act up (That's a tip from Louanne Johnson and I was shocked to see it works!)
If they carry on, ask them to step outside. Join them. Ask them "Why do you feel it necessary to behave like that?" and wait. The beauty of that question is that you aren't appealing to their better nature (they haven't got one yet!) you're finding out what their problem is. You find out all sorts of things (answers I've been given are "I have had to move out from my mum's house" "I've been told I'm going to get expelled" "I haven't had breakfast")
Get them to agree that they will behave. Shake on it. If they refuse to agree, then leave them outside for another minute.

Ring them at their house and tell them how you like them but you don't like their behaviour.
If they are intractable, have them removed to sit with the head teacher and organise a meeting with them and their parents before they can come back to your class.

But first and foremost: praise. There is no one on this planet who doesn't like to hear how great they are. Kids are no exception.

2006-10-01 10:41:55 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

When you go to a school ,the homeroom teacher should have left you lesson plans for the day as well as a current seating plan. Keep in mind you are not there to be their friend but to be their teacher.You should be firm but fair.If you announce that there will be a consequence for unacceptable behaviour, be prepared to follow through with it As a supply you should try to carry a few items in a small tote that you can take with you on an assignment.You should have some "busy work" items to keep the students occupied if they should finish their work early.Carry a package of sharpened pencils so there is no issue with the pencil sharpener. Stickers are inexpensive as rewards for work completed.Unless a child has a medical problem, a student shouldn't have to go to the washroom during class (although there may be exceptions) especially when there is ample time before school starts, recess and lunch to take care of personal needs.After all,the staff must make wise use of their time, why not the students.The same reasoning should be applied to water fountain breaks. As you've seen the students will try to take advantage of you if you let them.The full time staff should be able to give you some useful tips.The main thing is to let the students know you are in charge, after all you are their "real teacher " for the day.I don't know if it would be permitted, but tell the students whatever time is wasted in class will be taken away at recess.I'm sure with more experience you will sort out what works and what doesn't When you take lunch, sit with the other teachers and ask their advice .Good luck.

2016-03-18 02:06:25 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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2016-11-01 01:12:17 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

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First off, I loved, "I arrived this morning to the third grade classroom expecting it to be a wonderful paradise where butterflies alight delicately on their chubby, angelic cheeks. It was not like that. At all. " you made me laugh :) The problem with subbing is that they don't have time to adjust to you. You can't be consistent because they know you are temporary. What worked for me sometimes was taking out my phone (or a camera) and telling them I was taking a picture of their behavior and sending it to their teacher/mother (don't bluff on this, if you can't send a picture to the mom don't say mom, say teacher...you could always leave them for him/her the next day). You can also write a letter and say "out loud" what you are wriitng, "Dear ________, It is 10:30 and I am trying to give the lesson you planned, but Johnny, Sammy, and Susie won't sit down." You have to let them know the rules as soon as you walk in and you can't falter from them. If and only if they are good you can show a music video or give them some free time, but ONLY once they've shown you they can handle it. Good luck! Subbing is often the hardest form of teaching with fewer rewards :( After this though you can do anything!

2016-04-11 05:22:43 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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I need something beyond "be consistant and stay tough". What do I do with the students who I can not reason with?

2015-08-19 05:06:56 · answer #5 · answered by Olwen 1 · 0 0

okay, you can't win them all. After you've been consistent and businesslike, never argue, you end up having to call in the administration's system and, eventually, they'll either be gone, or they'll be in 8th grade.
Try reading Love and Logic by Jim Fay to get them on your side. Try this with your least loveable student for one-two weeks. Every day 'notice' something about him. Don't say 'I like your shirt'. Say, 'I noticed that you wear black T-shirts.' When (if) he replies, respond with 'I noticed that.' Notice something different every day. Try it! At the end of the time period, you will notice that you have a better relationship with that child, and that he may end up telling you something about his tatoo, or his home, or his favorite sport. Move on to another difficult kid, but keep 'noticing' with your first kid at least once a week.

I know it sounds silly, but it really works. This is not management, but relationship building, and in middle school, kids respond well to teachers that they perceive care about them. Noticing something about each child is perceived as caring.

2006-10-01 10:02:52 · answer #6 · answered by frauholzer 5 · 1 0

Quite frankly I can already tell that you are having problems because your approach is terrible. You must let them know that you EXPECT THEM to behave well and to do their work. Don't make ANY exceptions to that expectation. When they do something "wrong", let them know it and do NOT argue with them. Tell them that if they have a problem with the punishment that they should write an essay explaining their position. Then, talk to them about it. They're nearly adults and should be treated as such. If you have a particular student who is really bad in class I would bet the problem is that the student wants attention more than anything. Let the students know that the way to get your attention is by living up to your expectations.

2006-10-01 08:59:09 · answer #7 · answered by cyanne2ak 7 · 2 0

First of all, don't take any of it personally. They are still very egocentric at this age. They don't do things to make you mad, they do them because they want to (and it happens to make you mad). If it's a few individual students: Place high expectations on them. Challenge them. Find something they like and work that into your teaching, and give them the chance to feel successful. . If it's the group that's a problem, work on team building skills.

2006-10-02 05:20:22 · answer #8 · answered by Brian D 4 · 1 0

Send them out of the classroom. You can't reason with unreasonable people.

2006-10-01 08:59:23 · answer #9 · answered by steven 3 · 0 0

Choose your battles. I would involve these kids in some kind of role modeling situation cause it actually diffuses them sometimes. Most just want the attention anyways so give it to them in a positive way.I feel for teachers cause they have an incredibly hard job!

2006-10-01 09:09:50 · answer #10 · answered by Brianne 7 · 0 1

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