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do u believe in genie is related to satan

2006-09-30 02:44:06 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Mythology & Folklore

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That depends on where you are from. Us westerners believe a genie or jinn is a magical creature, where in the East the jinn is a demon. Here are some examples :

Here the Jinn is seen to be a minion of Satan -

Understanding Jinn and forms of Jinn

1 – Do the jinn appear in human form?
2 – Do the jinn have a real form?

With regard to the first question, it may be said:

Firstly: it should be noted that the basic principle concerning the jinn is that they are concealed from mankind, hence they are called jinn, because the Arabic root janna refers to a single original meaning which is to cover and conceal. The jinn are so called because they are concealed from mankind.

“O Children of Adam! Let not Shaytaan (Satan) deceive you, as he got your parents [Adam and Hawwaa’ (Eve)] out of Paradise, stripping them of their raiments, to show them their private parts. Verily, he and Qabeeluhu (his soldiers from the jinn or his tribe) see you from where you cannot see them”

Secondly: can they appear in human form?


The answer to that is that it is proven in the Sunnah and from real life that the jinn appear in different forms, such as the forms of people and animals, etc

Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said in al-Fath: This hadeeth teaches us a number of things… that one of the characteristics of the Shaytaan ( satan ) is lying, and that he may appear in various forms that may be seen, and that the words of Allaah, “Verily, he and Qabeeluhu (his soldiers from the jinn or his tribe) see you from where you cannot see them” [al-A’raaf 7:27], apply to when he is in the form with which he was created.

Here is whst the genie / jinn is to us :

The Western interpretation of the genie is based on the Aladdin tale in the Western version of The Book of One Thousand and One Nights, which told of a genie that lived in an oil lamp and granted wishes to whoever freed him from the lamp by polishing it. The number and frequency of wishes varies, but typically it is limited to three wishes. More mischievous genies may take advantage of poorly worded wishes.

2006-09-30 04:04:33 · answer #1 · answered by baby_girl 2 · 0 0

The popular "geenie" comes from the middle east where it is called a Djinn (pronounced "Jin", like the alcoholic drink). The Goetia is another word for "intense buzzing or howling" and relates to the arabian word "al-azif" which means pretty much the same thing. It is also known as the the sound made by a giant swarm of insects. A good book on the Goetia will list the majority of the "demons" it contains by name, title and rank if they have any. I don't believe djinns come from the Goetia. In my research, I've come to the cnclusion that true djinn have never possessed physical bodies and so desperately crave any type of interaction with humanity. As far as fallen angels are concerned, I think that there are a great number of people who fit the title. Just watch the news and you can see it in their eyes and their actions. I believe that each of us is our own personal satan and god for that matter. If we didn't have a little bit of each in us, there would be no "good guys" or "bad guys" to put it simply. I reccomend reading "The Necronomicon- the Wanderings of AlHazred" and "AlHazred-author of the Necronomicon". Both of these are excellent occult fiction and really kick-*** stories on top of that!!! Oh, and don't be afraid of the dark...There are entities all over the place that get a weird type of nourishment from fear; ignore them and they'll move on to easier prey! Better yet, tell them to F%@#K off and mean it and usually, they won't come back! We are humans and as such contain a spark of the Divine!!! Let it shine, yo!!

2006-09-30 21:06:13 · answer #2 · answered by Tom I 2 · 0 0

By definition goetias and fallen angels are both demons.

A genie is a creature of Eastern Mythology of the afrit and djinn order, the genie ordinarily listed at the bottom according to rank or order of power. Interestingly enough, afrits and their kin are considered powerful demons, the afrit being the most powerful.

Author Kim Harris mentioned in one of her fictive novels about Rachel Morgan, the red haired bounty-hunter witch heroine, that demons can be punished for defying demon protocol. When this happens the demon can be put into a bottle, changed into a genie and given to the person who has a claim against the demon for the protocol violation. Personally, I would prefer NEVER to deal with demons!

If a genie's powers (of granting wishes) can be believed, it certainly would take a demon to muster that kind of power. Of course, demons also are masters of deceit and will grant your wish in a manner that renders it useless to you. Hence the joke about the guy who found a genie in a bottle and wished for: "A chick with long legs..." He was promptly awarded a forever tag-along... Ostrich!

LOL!

H

2006-09-30 13:36:25 · answer #3 · answered by H 7 · 0 0

Because Genies are not an real entity and they come from a time when someone created an genie from some other sources of myth or folklore incidents.

2006-09-30 12:43:00 · answer #4 · answered by kilroymaster 7 · 0 0

the djinn is related to satan i think but thats a cuzin of the genie..genies are generally tricksters probly fallen angels or sumthin

2006-09-30 10:15:50 · answer #5 · answered by kevin 2 · 0 2

For the record, the goetia generally refers to a quite small number of demons--72, I believe--that by legend were conjured by Solomon to aid in building his temple.

2006-09-30 10:03:00 · answer #6 · answered by angk 6 · 1 0

If I answer the question, do I get 3 wishes?

2006-09-30 13:07:37 · answer #7 · answered by claudiagiraffe 5 · 0 0

Genie is the English term for the Arabic جن (jinn). In pre-Islamic Arabian mythology and in Islam, a jinni (also "djinni" or "djini") is a member of the jinn (or "djinn"), a race of creatures. The word "jinn" literally means anything which has the connotation of concealment, invisibility, seclusion and remoteness
Genie is the usual English translation of the Arabic term jinni, but it is not an Anglicized form of the Arabic word, as is commonly thought. The English word comes from French génie, which meant a spirit of any kind, which in turn came from Latin genius, which meant a sort of tutelary or guardian spirit thought to be assigned to each person at birth (see genius). The Latin word predates the Arabic word jinni, and the two terms have not been shown to be related. The first recorded use of the word in English was in 1655 as geny, with the Latin meaning. The French translators of the Arabian Nights later used the word génie as a translation of jinni because it was similar to the Arabic word both in sound and in meaning; this meaning was also picked up in English and has since become dominant.

Amongst archeologists dealing with ancient Middle Eastern cultures, any mythological spirit lesser than a god is often referred to as a "genie", especially when describing stone reliefs or other forms of art. This practice draws on the original meaning of the term genie for simply a spirit of any sort.
For the ancient Semites, jinn were spirits of vanished ancient peoples who acted during the night and disappeared with the first light of dawn; they could make themselves invisible or change shape into animals at will; these spirits were commonly believed to be responsible for diseases and for the manias of some lunatics. Types of jinn include the ghul (night shade, which can change shape), the sila (which cannot change shape) and the ifrit (pronounced IF-FREET).

The Arabs believed that the jinn were spirits of fire, although sometimes they associated them with succubi, demons in the forms of beautiful women
Muslims believe that jinn are real beings. The jinn are said to be creatures with free will, made of smokeless fire by God (the literal translation being "subtle fire", i.e., a fire which does not give itself away through smoke), much in the same way humans were made of a metaphorical clay. In the Qur'an, jinn are frequently mentioned and Sura 72 of the Qur'an named Al-Jinn is entirely about them. Another Sura (Al- Naas) mentions the Jinn in the last verse. In fact, the Prophet Muhammad was said to have been sent as a prophet to both "humanity and the jinn."

The jinn have communities much like human societies: they eat, marry, die, etc. They are invisible to humans, but they can see humans. Sometimes they accidentally or deliberately come into view or into contact with humans.

Jinn are beings much like humans, possessing the ability to be good and bad. They have the power to transform into other animals and humans, and they are known to prefer the form of a snake. It is also known that they eat bones and their animals eat droppings, that is why it is forbidden to perform Istinja (washing) with those items. Jinns also have the power to possess humans, have much greater strength than them, and live much longer lives. In fact, according to some hadith, the great-grandson of Iblis, or the Devil (who was born before mankind), converted to Islam during the time of Muhammad, so he must have been thousands of years old. According to the majority of Islamic scholars, clear evidence exists in the Qur'an that the Devil was not an angel (as thought by Christians), but a jinn, citing the Quranic verse "And when We said to the angels:'Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.' So they prostrated themselves except Iblis (The Devil). He was one of the jinn..." Surat Al-Kahf, 18:50. According to Islam, angels are different physical beings, and unlike the fiery nature of jinn, they are beings of goodness and cannot choose to disobey God, nor do they possess the ability to do evil. Evil Ifrit in The Book of One Thousand and One Nights are called "the seed of Iblis".

In Islam-associated mythology, the jinn were said to be controllable by magically binding them to objects, as Suleiman (Solomon) most famously did; the Spirit of the Lamp in the story of Aladdin was such a jinni, bound to an oil lamp. Ways of summoning jinn were told in The Thousand and One Nights: by writing the name of God in Hebraic characters on a knife (whether the Hebrew name for God, Yaweh, or the Arabic Allah is used is not specified), and drawing a diagram (possibly a pentagram) and strange symbols and incantations around it.

It is said that one could kill a jinn with the Inwa, a manner of throwing the stone of a fruit so hard so it could, in fact, kill something. The jinn's power of possession was also addressed in the Nights. It is said that by taking seven hairs out of the tail of a cat that was all black except for a white spot on the end of its tail, and then burning the hairs in a small closed room with the possessed—filling their nose with the scent—this would release them from the spell of the jinn inside them.

In the Qur'an, Solomon (Arabic: Suleiman) had members of his army belonging to the race of jinn. Solomon had the ability to communicate with all creatures, which allowed him to communicate with the jinn as well.

Evil beings from among the jinn are roughly equivalent to the demons of Christian lore. In mythology, jinn have the ability to possess human beings, both in the sense that they persuade humans to perform actions, and like the Christian perception of demonic possession
The Western interpretation of the genie is based on the Aladdin tale in the Western version of The Book of One Thousand and One Nights, which told of a genie that lived in an oil lamp and granted wishes to whoever freed him from the lamp by polishing it. The number and frequency of wishes varies, but typically it is limited to three wishes. More mischievous genies may take advantage of poorly worded wishes (including in one episode of The X-Files).

Many stories about genies tend to follow the same vein as the famous short story The Monkey's Paw by W.W. Jacobs, with the overriding theme of "be careful what you wish for"; in these stories, wishes can have disastrous, horrific and sometimes fatal consequences. Often, the genie causes harm to the loved ones or innocent people surrounding the wisher, making others pay for its master's greed or ignorance.

Exploiting loopholes or twisting interpretations of wishes is a classic trait amongst genies in Western fiction. For example, in "The Man in the Bottle" episode of The Twilight Zone, a poor shopkeeper who finds a genie wishes to become a leader of a great nation - and is transformed into Adolf Hitler at the very end of World War II. Often, these stories end with the genie's master wishing to have never found the genie, all his previous wishes never to have happened, or a similar wish to cancel all the fouled wishes that have come before.

Until 2005, the Djinn was one of many mythical creatures to be used as a Brownie patrol. When the Girl Guides of Canada updated the Brownie program in 2005, they decided that Djinns were an improper use of an Islamic cultural icon and made the decision to remove Djinns from the program.

2006-09-30 09:47:09 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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