Bush or Saddam-Who has killed more Iraqis?

Question

Why does the only country ever to have committed nuclear genocide,not allow other countries(unless they have powerful lobbyists and paymasters in Congress and Senate)to proliferate nukes to defend their own national borders and culture?

Answer 1

As previously said by other answers, Bush by a very, very long way, remember; Saddham was the puppet of America for many years carrying out orders of the Americans when defending the western interest against Iran (perhapes we should forget we were on his side then) and again as previously said by others the mass graves found were both those of his troops killed in action and those of Iranian troops also killed in action. It was the only way to dispose of them if you think of the temperatures of iraq, thousands of bodies would have caused an unbearable stench and disease. Saddham is certainly being cast as the villian but common sense speaks for itself. When Bush invaded Iraq the country was stable and whatever different factions say the economy and general life was bearable there was probably no other leader as caperble as Saddham to be able to keep it that way. Yes, Saddham quelled an uprising of the Kurds, using Gas,
but looking at it from his point of view the uprising was stopped quickly and without unaceptable loss of life of his own troops. Look at the situation today, Have the allies actted any differently in using the new technologyy at hand , are the dead iraq's any less dead? The difference is there are an awfal lot more dead Iraq's than Kurds. The allies with all our might are having unacceptable losses on a daily basis. The fact is we can't control the various factions and the position has fallen into civil war. The Americans have tortured beaten the hell out of the Iraqs and commited atrocities as bad as anything saddham could do yet this seems to be OK but its not is it?. Somehow, Americans on this forum think that there country is actualy saving the iraq people. That is because their News is edited to propergander (I here the words freedom god save America) but not what about the poor children and civilians the American people (Yes you support the war) and their army have killed since arriving in Iraq, What about those Iraq's lying in hostpitals with out legs and arms blown off because of the vile cluster bombs, those inocent kids playing football shot because freedom fighters were thought to be hiding out behind them, collateral damage I hear you say and so on. Do you honestly believe that any country will allow you to go in and kill and torture their people with out fighting back and believe me if Saddham was that bad why couldn't the Iraq people have done the same to him. Saddham had nowhere near the fire power the allies have. Saddham was certainly no angel but Iraq to day is approaching a holocaust not at the hands of sadham but those of Bush and Blair. They won't release the true figures of Iraq people killed in this war because it would confirm the absolute idiocy of the campaign.
Clinton had Thatcher to put him right, Whoever is advising Bush should be ousted with Bush.

Answer 2

I'd go with Bush on this one. I've followed the issue for years - since well before the latest war - and from what I've read, the tales of Saddam's genocide are vastly overblown. Don't get me wrong, he was still a murderous thug, but he didn't kill hundreds of thousands (unless you count people who died in the Iran/Iraq war). The mass graves we've found don't contain nearly that many bodies, and they generally turn out to be either from the Iran/Iraq war or from the shiite insurrection immediately after the first gulf war. The talk of Saddam killing hundreds of thousands has little basis in truth, it's just part of the demonization campaign that has been conducted against Saddam since the first gulf war.

Don't take my word for it, check the links below.

Sanctions alone resulted in the deaths of over half a million Iraqi children, but those deaths predate Bush. Since the current war started, there have been perhaps 300,000 excess deaths (=deaths above and beyond the pre-war 'normal' amount). Most of these have been caused by the U.S., particularly by air raids dropping bombs, but many have of course been caused by the civil war/insurgency/lawlessness. Whether you feel Bush should be held responsible for those is up to you, but in any case these are deaths that wouldn't have happened under Saddam.

Again, don't just take my word for this stuff. Check the links.

Answer 3

Whilst not being a big fan of Bush, I was in Iraq as a Medic with the Royal Marines in 1991 and can tell you first hand that the masses of graves we came across in Northern Iraq / Kurdistan pretty much speak for themselves. After we pulled out, Saddam turned his army on the people we had been trying our best to help. I would say that it was Saddam by a long shot. In my opinion we should have removed him from power during the first Gulf war, a costly mistake it seems now...

Answer 4

Saddam has personally had people killed. One of his first acts as leader was to have his political enemies rounded up and killed. He had entire populations of villages killed if someone in that village offended him.

Back in 1945, the US used its nukes to end a world war. Many little nations of today would like to start wars using their nukes to blackmail other countries. The U.S. with all its power hasn't nuked anyone since 1945. Because we're sane people. There are too many insane wannabe dictators out there who shouldn't have nukes.

Answer 5

I think Saddam , as i think most of the Iraqi,s that have been killed since the war Saddam is to blame for there deaths aswell.
With more people like Blaire and Bush we will continue to have fredom of speach, more people like Saddam and we will loose our human rights.

Answer 6

Saddam has an unbeaten record but don't forget despite Bushes cack handed approach, he is not carrying out all those atrocities - theres too many external forces wanting Iraq to implode for purely religious reasons. Oh and they claim to be defending a Muslim country.

The US has not commited nuclear genocide.

Answer 7

New figures show that Bush has overtaken Saddam

Answer 8

Saddam and if Bush can be blamed for death its connected with war he didn't set out to kill people as Saddam did and any killing now is done by the infiltrators fanned by Saddam loyalists

Answer 9

Saddam

Answer 10

Bush