Well, I don't have an opinion about what happened exactly, but I didn't want to believe the Loose Change video, so I checked up the official story, eg from popular mechanics "myth busting", and Purdue university re the pent report, and national geographic stuff. Maybe some stuff in the loose change is fantasising possibilities, that doesn't mean the whole thing is nonsense. One thing that people who support the official story say is things like "the disovery channel would have told you if this was true".-what! and say bald faced "the gov is lying"? do your own research without believing that anyone "must be telling the truth", do it for yourself. I won't offer an opinion, be intelligent, and caring enough to work it out in your own way, so many narrow minded people, they can't face the lie...so say it's the truth.
2006-10-02 08:39:04
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answered by hog b 6
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Fact: This is a documentary. Raises alot of great questions, but 9/11 mysteries is in my opinion alot better when it comes to the WTC.
2006-10-01 04:31:41
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answered by Luke F 3
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Let's be clear, this is NOT a documentary ...this is propaganda! It opens your eyes to how dumb some people are ... the 9-11 scenario has been researched by EXPERTS ..many programs on Discovery Channel and the like ..NOTHING like what is covered in this propaganda piece can be verified. If there were ANY truth to this thing they would not have to promote their theories on a web site, they could get people like Discovery Channel to show this ..BUT THEY CAN'T because this is fantasy, not reality..
2006-09-30 03:51:01
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answered by MeInUSA 5
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Keep in mind that......
What many of the the critiques agree on is that Loose Change uses unreliable sources, oversimplified arguments and selective facts to maintain there are problems with the events of September 11th:
Compares the Collapse of the World Trade Center to other notable high rise fires, but does not clarify differences in building design and size, structural damage and compromised fireproofing. There is no exploration on the effect of fire on unprotected structural steel, which "loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F." Kevin Ryan the "expert" source from Underwriters Laboratories for steel certification is actually a non-expert from a subsidiary for water testing. Underwriters Laboratories does not certify structural steel, and ASTM E119 certification involves intact fireproofing as conducted by Underwriters Laboratories for the NIST in 2004.
Loose Change is especially skeptical with the lack of readily visible airplane debris and bodies in the Pentagon and Pennsylvania crashes. It uses other airline disasters as evidence there should be larger debris found. However, those crashes were accidents where pilots were trying to save their aircraft; rather than deliberately crashing them. A video of what happens to a fighter jet and its heavy engine when crashed into a concrete barrier can provide a more accurate comparison. Substantial amounts of debris and body parts were recovered from both crash sites as the recovery operations began.
While some of the calls from Flight 93 were made with Airfones, the documentary asserts that other calls made with cell phones could not have happened from cruising altitudes. However, in the recent book "Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts" by Popular Mechanics editors (ISBN 158816635X), they point out Flight 93's altitude was lower and it was frequently over rural areas with powerful cell towers. Commercial airlines are testing new cell phone systems since it's a cost effective replacement to the unpopular Airfone being phased out. Reception is also improved (cell calls were dropped on Flight 93), works over the ocean, decreases avionics interferance and flight crews can disable the phones.
The National Institute of Standards and Technology has released a point-by-point rebuttal of many common alternative theories of the WTC collapse, including theories which Loose Change used. On September 11th, 2006, Democracy Now! conducted an exclusive discussion with Loose Change's creators and Popular Mechanics editors, where they debate various aspects of the documentary. American humorist Maddox, author of the satirical humor website The Best Page In The Universe, wrote an article on his website that criticised and lampooned the video and its producers.
Critics point out the documentary quote mines sources, uses unreliable or out of date single sources and cherry picks interview footage. It quotes Danielle O'Brien commenting on how air traffic controllers thought Flight 77 was a military plane based on its maneuverability; but it leaves out the end of the statement, "... you don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe." Loose Change quotes the coroner, Wally Miller, as seeing no bodies or blood the day of Flight 93's crash; over the next several weeks Miller goes on to identify 12 passengers "using mostly dental records." There is an interview of chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard focusing on the weaknesses of Hani Hanjour's flying skills when he took lessons at Freeway Airport; it fails to clarify Bernard's expert opinion on Hanjour's ability to hit the Pentagon. "There's no doubt in my mind that once that [hijacked jet] got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it."
In addition, many within the 9-11 research community point out the film's focus upon the Pentagon crash as a weakness. Chris Farrell, the Director of Investigations & Research at Judicial Watch, warned in an interview that his organization "could be the water carriers for a honey pot operation, in which the government attracts overwhelming attention to the Pentagon issue, making it the cornerstone of the 9/11 truth movement, and then blowing it out of the water by releasing clear footage of Flight 77." He stated, "Let's just call it a baited trap, it draws somebody into a situation in which they're compromised."
The original release of Loose Change Second Edition had several factual inaccuracies which have been corrected (or removed) in the recut Second Edition. The most notable are:
The New York's Empire State Building was not hit by a B-52 in 1945, but rather a B-25 Mitchell which is less than one-third the size of a B-52. (the first prototype B-52 would not fly for another seven years)
The suggestion that $167 billion in gold was stored in vaults beneath the World Trade Center was removed as it exceeded the entire amount of U.S. gold reserves by approximately $67 billion. The "$230 million in precious metals" stored at the WTC complex were in fact recovered.
Loose Change implies 757's only have Pratt & Whitney engines made of steel and titanium alloy, when in fact the engines used in Flight 77 are Rolls-Royce engines. Bollyn, an American Free Press reporter whom Loose Change references got the incorrect information from a factory in Indiana which makes engines for smaller aircraft; rather than the companies in Quebec and Derby that overhaul the 757 engines.
In response to some of these Korey Rowe, the producer of the "Second Edition", claimed in an interview, “We know there are errors in the documentary, and we’ve actually left them in there so that people discredit us and do the research for themselves.”
2006-09-30 03:49:36
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answered by Anonymous
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I wouldn't waste my time watching a propaganda film.
2006-09-30 09:56:03
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answered by stellablue1959 5
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yes...i felt so helpless and then i saw v for vendetta and thought that it was pretty much based on that.
2006-09-30 03:47:11
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answered by mama 2
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Welcome to the real world Neo...
2006-09-30 03:48:39
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answered by Jose R 6
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