Think about how it is next to impossible to be alive in this country without ID. You need ID for:
1. writing checks
2. cashing checks
3. using credit cards
4. buying a house
5. buying a car
6. to drive
7. to enter most contracts
8. to get a job
9. to rent movies at most places
10. to get credit of any kind
11. to rent a house or apartment
12. to rent a car
13. to do rent to own
14. if you get stopped by police whether driving, walking, or riding a bike
15. to buy alchohol
16. to buy cigarettes
17. to obtain loans
18. to open bank accounts
19. to start a business
20. to get social security
21. to get welfare
22. almost anything in life
Now knowing this what harm does it do to show ID for one more thing in life. Democrats always say the poor and elderly wouldn't be able to vote, but the poor usually get welfare and the elderly social security both of which require ID. So what is the problem.
2006-09-29
12:01:58
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My opinion is that it prevents voting by the people they need in order to win elections.
1. illegals
2. those that vote several times under several different names including the dead because you don't need to prove who you are.
It is the only thing that makes sense. Why else would you not want people to prove they are who they say they are in order to vote in this country. I myself am glad more and more states are requiring ID, it means those things I stated above will not happen and democrats will win less and less since they provide no benefit to this country.
2006-09-29
12:06:07 ·
update #1
Requiring ID does not take away from the anonimity of voting you don't have to write your name on your ballot, just show ID to get in to vote. Requiring ID is not a tax on voting a tax is related to charging to vote and requiring ID does not cost money. The constitution only allows those who have the right to vote to do so. not requiring ID means that it is possible and in the past has been a fact that those without the right do vote.
2006-09-29
12:11:27 ·
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The ballot remains secret, your votes can remain you have no right to remain anonymous.
If everyone showed their id's it would make fraud less likely, something the Democrats love.
There is no way to live and exist without ID in the United States. Rangels' little rant the other night about poor people in the US not being able to afford ID was a flat out lie. Poor people need ID as often as the rich, you must show ID to receive most benefits.
2006-09-29 12:09:01
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answered by Anonymous
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1) It's not a problem. No evidence that Large numbers of non-citizens try to vote.
2) Voting is our most basic right. Everyone who is a citizen and pays taxes in this country should have the right to vote, be encouraged to vote, and be helped to vote if they need help for some reason like a disability, or disorganization.
3) Denying someone their constitutional right to vote is one of the most serious offenses against our country's values. The government should not place any additional burdens on those who are attempting to vote. If anything, the burden should be on the government to prove that you are not eligible afterward.
4) Because some people don't want to have government ID. That is their choice in a free society. Every single thing you list is lower in importance than voting, and none are fundamental rights ennumerated in the constitution. People who don't want to carry a government issued ID should have the right to not do so, and not be denied their constituttional gauranteed rights if they make that choice.
5) What does the military and other overseas Americans do, staple their ID to their absentee ballots?
6) There is a dark history in this country of people trying to put barriers up to discourage people from voting. I know most republicans haven't cracked a history book since sophmore year of highschool, but there are some very serious and ugly things in our past that have contributed to the idea that we need to err on the side of making sure that everyone who is eligible get's their chance.
REMEMBER, when people don't vote, REPUBLICANS WIN!
2006-09-29 12:06:18
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answered by Anonymous
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A lot of people that traditionally identify with democrats are low-income, minority, and distrustful of the government. They may not want to show ID when it is not absolutely necessary for their own well-being. We know that most people in general don't see voting as necessary, so for the distrustful people it's an added disincentive.
If the person is getting welfare of some sort, they had a greater incentive to show identification for it because they get a monetary reward. For ALL the things you listed there is a monetary necessity to showing the ID.
For voting, there is no monetary reward, so having to show ID can be a big reason not to vote.
2006-09-29 12:10:01
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answered by Equichick 2
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They argue that since the government charges money for I.Ds, requiring people to show these I.D.s to vote is equivalent to a poll tax.
(Ripped from wikipedia)
A poll tax, in the sense of a discriminatory tax which was a pre-condition of the exercise of the right to vote, emerged in some US states between the mid-19th to mid-20th centuries. After the right to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the 15th Amendment, many Southern states enacted poll tax laws which often included a grandfather clause that allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax. These laws achieved the desired effect of disenfranchising African and Native Americans, as well as poor whites who immigrated after the year specified.
The United States government did not levy any poll taxes that blocked access to voting rights. Partly this is because the national government earned its revenues from income tax and excise taxes rather than from capitation, which required apportionment among the states[2]. Also, this is because the national government didn't conduct elections for its offices, instead delegating conduct of elections to the states.
The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, outlawed the use of this tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition in voting in Federal elections. The 1966 Supreme Court case Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections extended this explicit enactment as a matter of judicial interpretation of a more general provision, ruling that the imposition of a poll tax in state elections violated the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution. (This is one of several rulings that rely on the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment rather than the more direct provision of the 15th.)
2006-09-29 12:08:09
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answered by Nunya B 4
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because it clearly states in the constitution that you can't have a poll tax... which that's basically what you're doing...
why do Republicans love to do everything against the constitution...
voting is guaranteed by the constitution... none of the things you listed are... and I'm not so sure social security requires an ID... at least a photo id... which is the whole point here...
it's been through court after court... turned down again and again... but hey, let's waste more taxpayer money on the idea!... sounds great, you don't mind your taxes going up to pay for the already decided court battles... do you?
all those states that you mentioned... they've lost in court my friend... and if you live in those states... that's your tax dollars wasted on the court battles and legislation...
EDIT: How does requiring ID not cost money? the government charges for IDs... do you make them for free or something?
2006-09-29 12:06:04
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answered by Anonymous
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because it is a secret ballot. that's why. and you do have to show id in order to register to vote.
look, i see that you have concerns, but 1)why do you think illegals can't get ids? and 2) why do you believe this is a problem?
democracy does best when the hoops we jump through are meaningful. why do you believe showing an id will make the process better? we all know how well it works keeping the cigarettes from the kids ;)
2006-09-29 12:03:47
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answered by uncle osbert 4
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I never heard that (democrat view). I personaly agree with having a ID in order to vote.
2006-09-29 12:04:18
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answered by Belladonna 4
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When have the Dems' said this, because by what you just listed, it would not make any sense for them to even bring this up, I mean as you put it you need ID for anything anymore, so I do not know where you got your info on the Dems' statement, include a little more info please. As to the problem their Dems' they always have to have something to whine about thats what they are best at along with the liberals.
2006-09-29 12:08:01
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answered by Anonymous
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There are elderly people in this country who were, perhaps, born in impoverished areas, maybe not even in a hospital, especially older black people who probably weren't allowed in hospitals. No birth certificate, probably no ID.
2006-09-29 12:07:08
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answered by MishMash [I am not one of your fans] 7
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The problem is that people here illegally can currently sign up to vote and nobody checks their citizenship and then nobody checks on election day either. democrats need these people to vote and they don't care about it being legal or constitutional, they just want the illegal votes any way they can get them.
2006-09-29 12:05:02
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answered by remmo16 4
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