Has anyone else noticed how the government propmote university yet there are no jobs for graduates?

Question

i am a graduate and i got a good honours degree. i dont expect to be a millionaire and in fact just expect a living wage like everybody else but **** me why do the politicians insist on people going to uni when most graduates cant get jobs. i would have been better just leaving school at 16 without debt quite frankly. anybody else think the same?

i meant promote but clearly can't type

My boyfriend posted this question (we share the ID) last night and I just want to clarify a couple of things. He left university 4 years ago with a degree in English and History. I left Leeds University 7 years ago with a degree in French and Italian, and then I did a Post Grad in Translation. If we have applied for one job we have applied for hundreds, maybe thousands. Eventually we turned to self-employment. I have many friends and acquaintances in similar positions - I know barmen with PhDs. We are not recent graduates and we are not lazy, in fact we have been very proactive in our search for a career. We often find employers tell us we are overqualified - PWC told me I would be bored when I was interviewed by them for a graduate position - my Post Grad blew it for me.
So, when we see Blair et al banging on about getting more young people into university it doesn’t quite ring true when they claim the UK is 'crying out for graduates'.

Answer 1

That is a very common experience I think - the Government does not tell the truth!

Self Employment seems to be a solution but even that is strangled by overregulation and a guild system where people will try to stop graduates. I suggest perserverence and self-belief - besides removing this awful administration for one that encourages Business Start ups properly and allows intelligent, well trained people to get on with their lives.

You are not alone!

Answer 2

That's true. Once upon a time, a college or university education was reserved for the brightest youth in the nation. Then the liberals got ahold of power and started pushing their racial equality lies, the myth of the merits of the common man, and such, and suddenly everybody was entitled to a university degree. If some of the new students couldn't handle the workload, then the standards would have to be reduced, and reduced, and reduced again, until even the dumbest student football player, attending classed paid on a sports scholarship, could pass. Then the liberals opened the borders to both immigration and trade, flooding the job market here in America at the same time that the jobs began moving from here to overseas.

So three things have happened. First, due to lowered standards a university degree doesn't mean as much as it once did. Second, due to third-world immigration, there's a labor pool of darkies competing with real Americans for jobs in America. Third, due to trade agreements, there are fewer good jobs to be found in America.

Yes, you should have kept your money. Why earn a degree when any spicnig who isn't nearly as smart can get an equivalent degree? No matter how bright you are, or how hard you study, your recognition will be no higher than his, and therefore you won't stand out.

Answer 3

Are you in the USA? Here, unemployment is under 5%. That means graduate ARE getting jobs. YOU may be having a hard time getting a job, but that's anecdotal evidence from your point of view. The fact is, most graduates DO find jobs. But I'm talking about America. Things may suck in your country, if it's not the USA.

Anyway, you said "I got a good honours degree." I take it your major was not English or anything else that requires adequate communication skills. Maybe this is why you can't find a job. No offense intended, but this may be having an effect on your career situation.

Love Jack

Answer 4

The problem is the courses a lot of students complete, for example, Media Studies is the most studied course in this country. It seems a lot of students take degrees in subjects that there are limited jobs in. The government promote university to keep the unemployed figures down that's all. if people actually studied subjects there was a use for then there are plenty of jobs for them to go into. Classic Literature???? What job description has that subject as an essential or even a desirable????

Answer 5

Yes, they want everyone to get an education. With a degree you can apply for better-paying jobs and earn higher earnings. A college education used to be a form of insurance against corporate layoffs. This is no longer true.
More and more jobs are being shipped overseas, where companies can hire people at a fraction of the cost of hiring educated people. It's very sad. The cost to go to college is rising every year. The government wants you to be in debt. It gives them power over you.
If you can't find a job, invent one for yourself, hopefully an honest job. You are smart enough to do it. Good Luck.

Answer 6

I went to uni, had a fab time and then went into a job that payed appaulingly and have been paying for that for several years but essentially, some years later, am now in a position where i am earning more money than i could have earned without a degree. Sometimes you still have to start at the bottom but with the life skills going to uni provides you with, eventually you will get to where you want to be. I truly believe its a combination of education, maturity and work experience that gets you where you want to be. Sometimes i wish i hadn't done the degree but realistically i gained something at uni that 3 years working wouldn't have provided me with and thats a genuinely open outlook on life, the people you come into contact with and who you want to be. Good Luck in you're job seach, its not easy but when you find it you'll be glad of that degree - everyone i know who hasn't got one has bitterly regretted missing the opportunity!

Answer 7

Habit gets the answer 100% right, socialism is the cause of your misery. In the United States capitalism keeps the job market in great shape. When I graduated I received five excellent job offers, I took the best one and did not even wait for the graduation ceremony, most of my friends had the same experience.

Answer 8

Here are some stats for you (see link 1).

You shouldn't expect ANYTHING! Except poverty, strife, illness and a short life span if you choose NOT to educate yourself as thoroughly and relevantly as possible.

You shouldn't EXPECT a job. You shouldn't EXPECT a salary. You shouldn't EXPECT a living wage. You shouldn't EXPECT government assistance. You shouldn't EXPECT to educate yourself or improve your lot in life without SOME assumption of responsible debt.

Thinking that the push to educate is some political agenda to enrich universities is the notion of ignorance and stupidity. Education alone is not a ticket or a license. You must work hard and intelligently. You must market yourself. You must equip yourself in a manner that's better than the intense competition. You must be valuable to society, and figure out what value society will cherish in the coming years and decades and align yourself with that.

There is no free lunch, no socialist safety net and no guarantees. Welcome to life. Don't lose that degree!

Answer 9

Graduates don't get jobs because British University degrees are basically toilet paper.

There's a few dopes below who blame Socialism. FACT, The Communist countries that were had full employment, as they turned to capitalism, that's when unemployment appeared. Who the hell would want to live in a country like the US of A with all its poverty, misery, and lunatics with guns?

Answer 10

Over your life, you will make more money than someone without a degree. Quit using the internet and go look for a job. You may have to relocate, you may have to start at an entry position to get your foot in the door, but using this web site isn't going to help you.