A question for Intelligent Design believers?

Question

What's your opinion of "Lucy's Baby" - the 3.3 million year old A. Afarensis skeleton discovered in Ethiopia?

Just curious - but it seems to me that those of us who put themselves in such a category (ID or whatever) tend to blind themselves to any new evidence, wherever its from. Speaking as an educated layman I have no problem with randomness producing complex structures such as life (I see it every day at work), so why do we need to postulate a designer? Occam's razor works for me.

Answer 1

I think it's really cool to take a look into the past. It's amazing to see progression, adaptation, and evolution.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060920-lucy-baby-video.html

Why can't one believe in G_D and evolution. Is it so unfathomable? Oh yeah, because someone told them not to. LOL, oh well.

Answer 2

I find it rather interesting news, it is probably a joyful find for researchers. However, who can say personally for sure that is it a genuine discovery- we can only take their word for it. I don't think these researchers will go around digging up soil for years for nothing though without knowing that there is indeed some great genuine information coming out of it all.

People MIGHT exaggerate their finds like anyone may exaggerate with anything- but most researchers don't claim that all bone/fossil finds are a fully reliable record.

The preservation of bones completely depends on the environment within which it is found, in the desert, ice and rocks even.

However, unless we become better than them in their research work we have little room to talk. We have to be just as knowledgable as them or even more to put down a valid claim.

Bones can survive for ages and ages over time so I tend to believe that bones can be perserved but I can't deny that they don't can not be preserved over millions of years too but I will read or make an effort to try to understand more.

Dennis O'Neil ( a researcher ) states :

"Bones are composed of inorganic minerals and organic molecules (especially proteins and fats). After death, most of the organic components are eventually consumed by bacteria. What remains are brittle, microscopically porous bones. Water percolating down through the soil above dissolves mineral salts, some of which are precipitated out into the porous areas of bone. These minerals are usually calcium carbonate (limestone), silica, or iron compounds. Over time, this process makes bone increasingly more rock-like."

Answer 3

I do believe in Intelligent Design to some extent but I also strongly believe in evolution. I believe that something must have created the earth just because there's a lot (unfortunately getting less and less) of natural beauty in the world and it seems to me too much to all be an accident. However I do believe that if a god created humans then "he" would have created something like austrolapethicus and then the humans evolved.

I don't think many Christians take the Bible literally (I don't know about other faiths) and I see no reason why the first humans found couldn't have been created by some god.

Answer 4

There are people who believe that the intelligent design is infact evolution set in motion. When the world started there was a plan and evolution is not the be all and end all or some wonderful chance or mistake. That's one branch of creationism.

Yes, there are still a lot of idiots out there who think the world is only a few thousand years old but, whats the point in getting into an argument with them? That's like wasting your time trying to argue with a dellusional yokel who insists that aliens are reading his mind unless he wears a tin foil hat and everything he says rhymes.

Answer 5

i am actually fascinated by this idea since i am a biology and history major in college. unlike the people who think that it is a waste of time, shut up and pick up a book and read it since you know nothing about science! i think that it gives us a better understanding of the human evolution as well as development, the different phases of change and history being re-written since new elements that play a major role change the course of evolution. i think that this topic could be talked about for hours upon hours by those with interest and enough common sense to appreciate what the discovery means to the world of science. i like the new discovery and find it intriguing...but that is just me.

Answer 6

O.K. well I tell you, science always seems to be able to make these very very special time-lines on things!

Like 3.3million years.....................It has always made me see the other side, of their so called dating...Nothing in this world...can date like these people, they are truly amazing?

1.2million years or how about 50million years , thats a real good one...Common sense, and thats what we were given...is able to say, ''well science has come soooo far'' they can now date something that old.
Sorry not my common sense..I belong to a site that tells quite the oposite.Called ''Todays new reason to believe''
It tells how many science wizz's have found..Intelligent design, is the only way...!Lucy's baby is not 3.3. mill yrs old...or 1.1.mill yrs old.
Nothing can last my friends that long?..Call me crazy....but I am getting to that point in my life, when I see thru what people 'want' us to believe...and what really is fact.
I like to deal in fact.Remember a million yrs is a VERY LONG TIME.
It makes me want to choke some of these science nuts-about dating things.But! I will tell you something from the mouth of a science pro- if they can not find a correct date...
They just GUESS!!!
and that is a true fact,but try and get them...like the one time I heard it...to admit to it?..just try.
How stupid, do they really think we are.....It makes me see red, and I refuse to be one of their many converts.

Intelligent design =common sense.
You can't get something from a big bang.
Its impossible, when you just go out side and see what God has made. The trouble now with us, we tend to think others have all the answers, as they have gone to school for a few yrs...and I know what I was told...about the guessing, was a fact.For once..someone told the truth! about Time I say....

Answer 7

Lets see, I can begin by dissecting the way in which scientists predict the age of an artifact, or that time is not precisly define in the Bible, and that if you'll recall this skeleton is thought to have died purhaps by water. Can I say Noah please? I think it is entirely possible to believe in the NOTION of darwism and Christianity. So, my opinion, great some bones to guess about. I'm still not convenced...

Answer 8

You explain to me why Evolution is still a theory, why Carl Sagan is quoted as saying the chances of Evolution happening is astronomical (pun intended) and how you can preach Evolution as fact in the face of a continued inability to find a missing link, and I will explain to you my belief Creation (to hell with the new PC term inteligent design)

K Sport?

Answer 9

and why must we work so hard to get the design right! oh don't say it I wasn't born yesterday it's not another test! ever seen a dog chasing it's own tail....never mind

Answer 10

I thought the Flying Spaghetti Monster put it there???