I find the christian argument against gay marriage to be hypocritical at best. Do you buy it? They say gay marriage would ruin the institution of marriage, but in other countries where it's legal, there is no proof of that at all. They say marriage is the foundation of our society, but it already has a 1-in-2 failure rate. Something that weak/poor is the foundation of our society? They say it's against the bible. But adultery is against the bible (it's actually serious enough to warrant a commandment all its own) AND it's clearly damaging to marriage. Yet, christians do not deny adulterers the right to marry & divorce, and marry & divorce repeatedly, and continue to decay the institution of marriage. Jesus never speaks one word against gays, but he clearly speaks out against divorce. The christian reply to that paradox? Hate & denigrate gays -- and make divorce so easy that it's practically an institution. Who is ruining marriage? Is hate and dishonesty really the answer?
2006-09-27 17:59:45 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
Of course not, and not just because I love another woman and consider myself married to her in my heart, if not legally.
There are many legal marriages going on that aren't their idea of Godly--marriages involving atheists, celebrity marriages, open marriages, etc. Why are same-sex ones such a big screaming deal?
2006-09-27 18:03:56 · answer #1 · answered by GreenEyedLilo 7 · 6⤊ 1⤋
It is simply lies and hypocrisy.
When questioned about the actions that are clearly ruining the "sanctity" of marriage, people obviously know how and why marriage is a failing institution.
The right wing of the republican party just uses this issue to divide people more effectively. There is no real or honest reason for people to be so against gay marriage. Every reason given is based on hypocrisy and a false sense of morality.
If people really cared about "holy matrimony" they would be banning divorce, disallowing divorced people to remarry, and not letting people get married without knowing each other well enough to really make an honest effort at a life long commitment.
Instead, they try to make sure gay people can't take part in the institution.
Marriage hasn't been taken seriously for over 30 years. Why, when gay people want to do it, is it suddenly "holy" and in need of protection? Simply because they don't like gay people. Not because they care about "family values."
Nearly EVERY elected official that insists on preserving marriage and family values are divorced and remarried. It's all a bunch of bullsheet.
2006-09-28 21:26:46 · answer #2 · answered by Dustin Lochart 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
!!SevenLights!!,
I don't understand how gay marriage would ruin anything. Maybe except the insurance companies profit margin, I don't even know where that comes from.
I am a Christian by the way. And if these wonderful bretheren of mine thought past their Sundays at church, they might have figured out that marriage in the Old Testament was done in a tent, on the night of de-virginizing the bride. There weren't any priests to make everyone feel holy, before the divorce a week to a few years later, with everyone committing to the divorce a liar, a breaker of vows.
Come to think of it, are you sure that you want marriage? It's been my experience that it's a curse when people can suddenly leave each other any time they want and mess with the kid's heads, like what happened to me!
Yeah, I think you should have marriage, but don't hold it against me! lol
2006-09-28 01:48:41 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 8⤊ 0⤋
NO, I have never bought the Christian-motivated fallacy. Not for one second.
Even while I was married to a man and attempting to live like a straight person, I have always supported the idea of gays/lesbians being allowed to legally marry.
The problem is that most "Christians" conveniently forget to separate LEGAL MARRIAGE from Religious Marriage.
Atheists are allowed to marry and no church is required. Tens of thousands of couples are married via a "Justice of the Peace." No church required there.
Theives, rapists, murderers, paedophiles, swingers, various sexual deviants and tax evaders are all allowed to marry.
It's simply a ploy to deny rights to one section of the population based on pure and simple fear/hatred.
There's no other rationalization for denying it to gays/lesbians at all.
Granted, this is also not to mention the hundreds of churches across the country which do infact sanctify gay/lesbian unions.
What's worse is their argument that our laws are in anyway based solely on "Christian" fundamentals.
This is an outright lie!
Yes, many of the founding fathers were "Christian" but others only admitted to being deists. Our laws, however, do NOT institute or support any one religion over any other, nor do they proclaim any national religion. Therefore, the Christians' argument is moot.
2006-09-28 02:33:07 · answer #4 · answered by DEATH 7 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Actually, I don't give a second thought to what most christians have to say. Regarding marriage, I'm embarrassed at what it has become. It certainly is not the institution that it once was.
I would rather spend the rest of my life with my partner in a monogamous relationship than participate in the fallacy that marriage has become.
2006-09-28 13:12:27 · answer #5 · answered by Neil 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You've zeroed in on the hypocrisy that they endlessly spew out of their tiny little minds. If what they say is true, then the first married gay couple in MA has already destroyed the sanctity of every one of their marriages. I'm waiting for the first heterosexual divorce that lists that as a reason, heck I'll even take a broken engagement - it should be front page news, I just can't wait. I know I sound as if I hate them, but I do not. I'm just so sick of their endless self-righteous blathering about hell and sin while they are throwing stones from extremely fragile glass houses. I wish they'd all just shut up, mind their own business and attend to the logs in their own eyes.
2006-09-28 02:04:35 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 0⤋
In terms of marriage, as a religous ceremony, I've never wanted any part on it and I honestly think the gay community lost some of its focus on this one. The goal at the begining was to ensure that same-sex partners had the same legal rights as hetrosexual married couples. You can't mess with religion, its a no-win situation, its an insitution that changes ONLY when IT wants to and will never bow to outside pressure. BUT we can fight to change the law and thats where we should be focusing. A law that openly discriminates against a portion of its community is an unjust law and should be changed. A law that uses the institute of marrige as a lever, when the church and state or suppose to be separate, is an unjust law. It's the law that we need to change. And while I am agree that in this matter the church is bigotted, they are entitled to that opinion. The law however is not.
2006-09-28 01:20:19 · answer #7 · answered by God 4 · 5⤊ 2⤋
No, nor do I respect their feelings on the matter.If they think that their marriages would be harmed by Same-Sex marriage then they also need to go against the "quicky" marriages in Vegas, refuse to recognise marriages not performed by Christians, and literally hundreds of other marriages. There has been Gay marriage in Denmark since 1989. They really need to look there to show them that it doesn't hurt marriage at all.
2006-09-28 06:16:25 · answer #8 · answered by IndyT- For Da Ben Dan 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I still hear the blare of horns from flower-bedecked limousines speeding down the highways and byways of my community on Saturday afternoons (and a few other choice days during the week) as they speed from the church after a wedding ceremony. I can't, for the life of me, see that the institution of heterosexual marriage is threatened in any way, shape or form.
2006-09-28 04:42:36 · answer #9 · answered by crowbird_52 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I didn't read all your question but I agreed with the first couple of lines.
I made the point ages ago about the so-called "sanctity" of marriage and how this must be preserved. I wouldn't exactly call T.V shows like The Bachelor or Joe Millionaire role models for promoting the "sanctity" of marriage.
I would think Christians should mind their own business - I mean, do we take it upon ourselves to critique their love lives?
I'd love to though - say something like "You shouldn't be allowed to marry him, he has big ears and buck teeth! Think of your children and how ugly they'll be! They will be teased all the time! How can you do that to a poor child!"
I can feel the fire of hell warming me now......
2006-09-28 01:09:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 8⤊ 0⤋
You are correct, of course.
Constitutionally, we should have the right to marry. If that weren't true, the fundies wouldn't be in such a knicker twist over a constitutional amendment. They know the current "Defense of Marriage Act" can't stand up to constitutional scrutiny.
Just ask one of those folks to list the ways my marriage would affect theirs. Specifics! They can't provide any other that "I'd have to accept it.". Big deal. I have to accept a lot of marriages that I think are mistakes, but it's none of my business.
They don't understand that concept, "None of my business.".
2006-09-28 13:02:45 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋