If you believe the fallacy of an argument that homosexuality is not a choice, wouldn't it be logical for you to conclude that what you prejudice isn't a choice either?
I see peolpe racist, or prejudice against other lifestyles, etc all the time who are perfectly decent human beings until you bring up such subjects. If you don't want to be judged harshly for being a homosexual, it would help if you were a litte bit more understanding of the point of view of others who don't think exactly like you, especially if that's what you would want/expect others to do for you.
2006-09-26 09:57:33 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
I was referring to the "we must save tem" because it doesn't matter whether people want to wrap their mind around the concept that Hell is just as real as Heaven and people do go there if they refuse God's teachings. It doesn't just apply to people who know it's true; it applies to everyone.
2006-09-26 10:43:31 · update #1
What Would Jesus Do? Are you kidding me? I know he wouldn't be condoning your homosexuality. I also know he doesn't condone bigotry or anything like that, but I'm not trying to justify bigotry or hatred, I'm trying to get you to see that two wrongs don't make a right, and if I have to exhibit behavior or attitudes that you don't like to get it through your head, then so be it.
2006-09-26 11:09:38 · update #2
Atropis, what you're telling me is that my prejudice is worse than yours because yours is coming from you. Don't try to hide it or justify it, because I can see through you like a plate of glass.
2006-09-26 19:20:49 · update #3
You don't have to think like me, just leave me alone to think like myself & others who do think like me! Our retaliation comes in when people think we need to be saved, or changed, or basically be turned into something we are not because others are not comfortable with it. Yes, we are all different & everyone is going have differing opinions ranging from one end of the spectrum to the other, and that is fine. But DO NOT think it is right or justified or even warranted for someone to impose their opinion on someone else simply because they differ. THAT is where the root of our retaliation comes in. We DON'T NEED changing or saving! Let us be & we would be more than happy to let you be. Our "prejudice" as you call it has been trained into us by you & the millions of others out there that think like you. It is a reaction to protect ourselves.
2006-09-27 03:52:55 · answer #1 · answered by Shea M 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋
There's a difference between defending yourself from an attack and being discriminatory. You attack us right and left, and so we have the right to defend ourselves. If this involves rebutting your "arguments," so be it. If you can't take the heat, don't throw out your bigoted hate-mongering statements in the first place - then we won't have to defend ourselves, will we?
Don't forget YOU are the one who brought up the subject. We don't go into your homes, or forums, and tell you that you are "perverted" and "going to hell." Don't expect people you attack to be "understanding" of your hatreds.
When you try tolerance, peace and understanding for a change, you will find it reflected back to you. WWJD [He never said a single word against LGBT people]? Karma?
2006-09-26 10:48:33 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Most gays are not bashing...they're simply saying no to what we consider ridiculous. "you see people racist or prejudice against other lifestyles.....WHO ARE PERFECTLY DECENT HUMAN BEINGS UNTIL YOU BRING UP SUCH SUBJECTS" Good God what does that say about those people?? maybe you should stop and think about what you're saying before you choke on both feet.
2006-09-26 10:09:16 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
Your logic is faulty. Racism and prejudice are a learned behavior. Homosexuality is not a learned behavior. And while yes people should be tolerant regardless of what side of the spectrum they are on - its is more difficult to be "understanding" toward someone who wants to take away your civil and human rights based on your sexual orientation. Tolerance toward prejudice people means nothing because Gay people are not in a position to impose their beliefs on them - - where as the Prejudice people are the ones holding priveledge to marry, have children or even live their lives over their heads.
It is ridiculous to expect someone to sit back and say "oh well, I understand how you feel, please feel free to ridicule me, humiliate me, threaten me with physical harm or possibly death." People who are prejudice toward homosexualty do not have the same risks as a person who is homosexual.
Prejudice is a choice - - people choose what to think, beleive or trust. Homosexuality is not a choice.
2006-09-26 10:03:05 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 1⤋
Normal basic instinct to fight hostility with hostility. Its only fair don't you think? However in my old age I've learned that arguing with every ignorant bastard who has some time to type up a baiting question about homosexuals is not worth my time. Furthermore, my intelligence can be used elsewhere on more engaging subjects. I don't mean to offend anyone by my lifestyle but if you push me I will defend it.....
2006-09-26 10:14:42 · answer #5 · answered by Fairy 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Simply put, your prejudice is worse. Heterosexism includes prejudice AND power, feeding into an entire system of oppression. What you're saying is "Hey, slaves. If you want your freedom, don't fight for it. Just try to understand that the slave owners kind of like you where you are." I'm not saying that our oppression is anywhere NEAR as bad as that experienced by slaves anywhere, nor is it the same as race-based slavery in the states. I'm not going to play "hierarchy of oppression" as to how bad it is, though. Oppression is oppression, and it's ugly no matter where it is. Thing is: if you look at empirical facts, there's no excuse for homophobia. And there's DEFINITELY no excuse for institutionalized heterosexism.
2006-09-26 13:31:37 · answer #6 · answered by Atropis 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
No it would not be logical, so the rest of the question is moot. However, just to give a better answer than that, I don't mind somone having a different point of view. That's fine. BUT I do mind when someone uses that point of view to belittle me or my friends, or to insult me. There is a line.
2006-09-26 10:48:14 · answer #7 · answered by God 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Prejudice means judging someone before you have the facts.
If you pre-judge a gay person, that's reprehensible -- the fact that they're gay has given you no fact on the basis of which to pass judgment.
If you judge a bigot, you're doing so on the basis of their bigotry -- an observed phenomenon. So that's not "prejudice," i.e., pre-judgment.
2006-09-26 10:02:42 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 0⤋
Homosexuals are born that way and you are a narrow minded bigot who is trying to justify his homophobia as something the gays have brought on themselves. Who are you to have a "point of view" about how someone else lives their life?
2006-09-26 10:02:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
I agree that more poeple need to be understanding of other people's opinions... but I draw the line when someone's opinion turns into an excuse to bash others... you can state your opinion and agree to disagree, but some people don't know how to stop at that- gay and straight
2006-09-27 12:32:31 · answer #10 · answered by Phedre D 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋