A 23 year old downloaded child pornography. He was arrested, served 4 years in prison and 3 years supervised release. He is a registered sex offender for the rest of his life. When he got out of prison, he got a job, but omitted the fact of his crime. They found out and fired him. He now tells the 100% truth whenever he applies for a job. He was applying for at least 5 jobs a day for about 6 months. NO ONE will hire him. Most of these people say it is for a different reason, but we know it isn’t. He applies for the jobs that nobody else wants and is willing to work for the least amount of money. This “monster” (as I am sure some of you will refer to him as) is my brother. He lives in his old beat up car a couple miles out of town because no one will rent to him because of his past. He unfortunately can’t live with us because our landlord won’t let him even visit us on his property. It has been 9 years since he committed the crime.
2006-09-26 07:27:38 · 25 answers · asked by Not Gonna Tell Ya 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
When is it enough. When do you think this person can at least get a job and a decent roof over his head.
By the way, he did NOT touch a child, sell child porn, buy child porn, produce child porn – he downloaded it from a newsgroup. He is now afraid to even go near a computer.
The charge of his crime is: 1 COUNT - POSSESSION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY TRANSMITTED BY COMPUTER
This is the only thing he has ever done wrong in his life. Not saying it is right, but damn… when is it enough. He got beat up pretty bad a couple of times because “vigilantes” saw his picture on the internet and decided to dish out some more punishment. The police in our town turned the other way. The “vigilantes” didn’t even get questioned. So tell me, where is my brother supposed to live and work without fear of being harassed, beaten or fired???? AND, do you think the vigilantes should be punished????
2006-09-26 07:27:51 · update #1
horrible. This is why the law needs to legaly remove the status of sex offender. It's too broad. A 16 y.o who gets caught with his 16 or 17 y.o. g/f becomes a "sex offender" for life. This isn't even close to the same thing as harming a child. I wish I knew what to tell you here.
2006-09-26 07:31:59 · answer #1 · answered by Manny 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't mean to sound harsh, but seriously why would he download child porn on the computer in the first place?
I do think he deserves a second chance and hopefully someone will look past this, but most likely not.
I don't know if this applies under being discriminated, don't think it does, but who knows.
And I feel very sorry for him, because no one has the right to beat him up. He served his time and did what he was suppose to do. Those people who beat him up will get what they deserve even if it's not under the law.
I don't know what he could do, maybe he should consult a lawyer, or something. Good luck, and I am sorry, but maybe he really should have thought before downloading children porn on the computer.
I do know there are other sex offenders out there who have jobs, I don't know how they did it..........
2006-09-26 07:36:42 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Those convicted of Sex Crimes have the strictest post-incarceration laws because it is a statistical fact that these people will commit another SC and that they generally escalate.
I not saying this is the path your bro is on, but last year in FL, in 100% of the cases where a child was kidnapped, raped & murdered - the perportrator had been previously incarcerated for some degree of 'sex crime.'
Is there a larger town nearby where your brother could relocate? Returning to a small town is obviously not working out for him as everyone knows what he's done.
2006-09-26 07:43:23 · answer #3 · answered by dlil 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
That was the only thing he was "caught" doing in his life, you mean.
Your land lord can not legally prevent your brother from visiting the property you lease.
Additionally, US government housing is equal opportunity housing so he CAN live there and the ACLU will help him do so.
Other sex offenders seem to be able to get jobs right and left. At this point I'd insist he lie just a little bit and get work. Or he can mow lawns. You can give him the money to start his own lawn mowing business. You only need a trailer and lawnmower and weedeater. He has a car to pull the trailer already.
there is always an answer.
lazy is as lazy does.
2006-09-26 07:41:50 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Tough issue, however, he served his time in prison. That is what we normally take for 'punishment', after a man has served his term in prison he should be able to be re-introduced into society and live a normal life. When is it enough? it was when his time was up.
That said, if a company knowingly hires a sex offender and he commits a sexual crime on company property while on the job, the company that hired him becomes liable. So although this type of treatment by corporate US is morally reprehensible, not behaving in this manner could prove extremely costly to them.
2006-09-26 07:34:46 · answer #5 · answered by Eli 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
With a handle name like "Not Gonna Tell Ya" why is she telling us this story? I don't see any question here.
He's a now 32 year old registered sex offender without a job. I'm a 32 year old on probation for not letting my wife out of a car during an argument. Iceland anybody or some other European country which has no access to US criminal records?
2006-09-26 07:39:08 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
My question is this. HOW was it discovered he was downloading child porn? Without knowing the whole story, it's hard to say. What IS known is that it is NORTORIOUSLY hard to change a pedophile and it doesn't start with one day someone wakes up and goes "I think I'll start molesting children today".
It has been established that someone who enjoys child porn is more likely than not to become a sexual predator.
However, there are organizations that can help with employment for people with records. I'm not sure what state you're in, but here's a few links that might help regardless of where you are. They probably can help with listings in your area.
http://www.centerforce.org/links/index.cfm?cat=14
http://www.hirenetwork.org/admin/clearinghouse.php?state_id=VA
2006-09-26 08:05:09 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
It is such a shame that some tend to judge others when they can not stand up to the kind of scrutiny they put other people through? Do you live in a small town? Perhaps it would be better for him to move out of state. He sounds like he could use a clean start.
You read in the news about people who have high positions in the federal government contacting children for sex from their job no less. I pray your brother finds some peace in his life.
2006-09-26 07:40:15 · answer #8 · answered by pacbellgal 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
The problem is that "sex offender" is applied like the scarlet letter "A" indiscriminately to satisfy a public need. It has nothing, or nearly nothing, to do with public danger. If you compare the first two links below you'll see: there was no prosecution in case #1; there was in case #2. But in BOTH, the so-called "perp" MARRIED with parental family court approval his girlfriend, who just happend to be underage. "Sex crime" lumps together passive observers, curious collectors and active and dangerous predators. Diminishing protection from the latter by wasting resources on the first, including those as to whom recidivism is wildly improbable. (I see in someone else's posting the canard that sex offenders "can't be rehabilitated". That's true only of predators.)
((I am reminded of the 1936 film "Reefer Madness". By misrepresenting fact and by exaggerating to the level of ridiculous, what was supposed to be a cautionary film became a cult comedy, delivering the opposite message of what was intended.))
The classic case (which I've unsuccessfully tried to document, but which a reliable colleague told me about) was two 13- or 14-year-olds in Georgia who were prosecuted for under-age sex -- with each other. The jury acquitted -- jury nullification -- despite the fact that the prosecution played a video that they'd made of themselves in flagrante delicto.
It is luck, more than anything, that determines guilt for what may in fact be curiosity; and almost certainly involves Russian or Ukrainian teens for whom the clientele is largely German and other non-Americans.
The situation of those who try to abuse real-live children is quite different in fact. But not in law, unfortunately.
There is really no attempt at "rehabilitation" because the "experts" say that sex offenders can't be rehabilitated. But it seems to me, from my professional standpoint, that it's a pity not to do what Gilbert and Sullivan suggested long ago (and Gilbert was, like my daughter, a barrister): "My object so sublime / I shall achieve in time / To make the punishment fit the crime / The punishment fit the crime.
As a practical matter, the perpetrator/victim in this case has two choices: go into business for himself; or go abroad. (Another Answer recommends Canada. Unfortunately while Canada may admit the offender as a tourist, it won't admit him as a permanent resident (formerly landed immigrant = immigré reçu). I hope the offender in this case speaks, or can learn, a foreign language.
The Iowa law prohibiting the residence of registered sex offenders in areas where children are likely to congregate has proved the lunacy of present policy: such offenders are rendered homeless, or forced to leave for other states (terms of probation permitting). They can't work, live with families, or survive.
Then there's the conundrum of sex offenders living in their old neighborhoods and -- wait for it -- making homes in those neighborhoods unsaleable. Including, sometimes, the home of the victim as well as the home of the offender's parent, where the offender is a dependent minor as often is the case.
I've rambled on. Hope you found this useful.
2006-09-26 07:45:57 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
I haven't walked in those shoes but I work near a prison and think about how they live. I'm looking out looking in. It seems it's a life of luxury. Meals 3xday. Recreation, I see the basketball courts, baseball field, weights. Others tell me they have cable television. The prison system almost makes it convenient for one to want to stay.
The cliche': Pay your debt to society. What!?!?!?!? Society doesn't seem to forget. What could your brother do,except start something on his own. but how. I really don't know. I emphathize with you.
2006-09-26 07:34:11 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋