Do you want your tax $$ used by ACLU on lawsuits to remove your expression of religion?

Question

Why should our money be used to take away our rights ? The House is voting on Bill HR2679 today . I called my member of Congress at the Capitol switchboard-did you ?

At the Capitol Switchboard : 202-456-1414 , I was transferred to member of Congress' office ; and reached an actual human being ( as opposed to recording ) . Call it what you will , it amounts to our tax $$ - when it limits the amount resulting from damages & attorney's fees ( translates as $$ for ACLU in 1 way or another ) !

Answer 1

Yikes!
I don't want one thin dime of mine to go towards anything to do with the ACLU!

I think you are mistaken though. HR2679 is old.


October 13, 1999
(House Rules)

H.R. 2679 - Motor Carrier Safety Act of 1999
(Shuster (R) PA and 3 cosponsors)

The Administration strongly supports legislation to provide additional authority and resources to improve commercial motor vehicle safety. The Administration appreciates that H.R. 2679 includes several elements of its motor carrier safety proposal (introduced as H.R. 2682), including reform of the Commercial Driver's License (CDL) program, increased funding for motor carrier safety, improved data collection, and strengthened enforcement measures.
The Administration would have no objection to House passage of H.R. 2679 if it were amended to:

Require new CDL applicants to have alcohol and drug-free driving records for the three years preceding application; require in-vehicle training for new drivers; require on-board recorders where appropriate; and replace the withholding penalty with a provision requiring transfer of up to 5% of a State's Federal-aid highway funds to its Motor Carrier Safety Assistance Program (MCSAP) grant.

Remove the mandatory assessment of maximum fines, which would inappropriately limit the Department of Transportation's discretion, and extend current penalties to persons who knowingly aid, abet, or otherwise induce violations of motor carrier safety regulations.

Either conform authorized funding levels for MCSAP grants and improved data collection, management, and analysis to the Administration's request, or make all authorizations available to be funded from the Highway Trust Fund.

Address the nationwide highway-railroad grade crossing and railroad trespasser problems by: (1) promoting the development of individual railroad notification programs; (2) endorsing the development of model State legislation to deter violations of grade crossing signals; and (3) requiring that States and railroads submit key grade crossing data to the National Highway Rail Crossing Inventory to increase our ability to identify those crossings posing the highest safety risk.
Finally, safety is the Administration's highest priority in motor carrier transportation policy, and the Administration strongly supports the bill's explicit inclusion of this concept. If a new agency is created, it should have the word "safety" within its title.

Answer 2

I just did a search on the House website. First, crazyotto65 is crazy, the current bill on freedom of religion is HR 2679.

Second your crazy too, I read the entire bill and there is no way that this bill would lead to funds for the ACLU. I am a teacher and a lawyer, what are you? When you called the Capital switchboard did they tell you that you had a wrong number?

Answer 3

To whom have you been listening? HR2679 simply limits any damages than can be paid from a lawsuit won by someone who challenged the government on the free expression of religion to injunctive relief only. It doesn't curtail any rights, it only limits what government bodies can pay out as damages when they lose a lawsuit.
By the way, the ACLU is funded by donations, and takes no tax money of any kind.

Answer 4

The ACLU would not use tax funds. they often symbolize clientele who prefer to deliver proceedings. anybody has the suitable to record a lawsuit. If a lawsuit has no benefit, the plaintiff will lose. yet whilst a jury comes to a decision in prefer of the plaintiff, then with the help of definition the lawsuit isn't stupid (till you love to do away with our Constitutional good to jury trial). it is not as much as you to choose for no be counted if somebody's lawsuit is stupid or not, till you're sitting on the jury.

Answer 5

First, the ACLU is a private organization. It is not funded by tax money. Second, the ACLU lobbies for private expression of religion, not against expression. So you have that one backwards.

What the ACLU opposes is government expression of religion, as defined by the Supreme Court for well over a century. In other words, they help individuals to sue (privately) to ensure the state and federal govt are obeying the rules of the Establishment Clause.

Finally, have you actually read HR 2679? All it does is provide that if the government breaks the law, the person whose rights were infringed cannot recover the costs of the suit. So, for example, let's say a town mandate that no church other than Lutheran will be allowed in the town. By city ordinance, one religion only is allowed.

Someone (let's say a Catholic church) sues the town for violating the 1st First Amendment. And obviously wins. Under the current laws, they can recover their costs for challenging the illegal ordinance. If HR 2679 passes, they cannot recover those costs. It's an end run around Supreme Court holdings, that basically prevents anyone who is not rich from being able to sue.

All HR 2679 does is ensure that the govt can violate the Establishment Clause whenever they want, and mandate state religion all they want, because only those people who have hundreds of thousands of dollars to sue the govt will be able to challenge the violation of their constitutional rights.

One one small step for the majority religions, one giant leap towards theocracy.

Answer 6

Are taxes don't fund the ACLU. What is the Bill about, do they want to have are taxes go to ACLU, i think their doing fine without it. As for gun rights, that is what the NRA is for.

Answer 7

I thank God everyday that we live in a country where there is an organization like the ACLU to act as a watchdog to prevent the majority from trampling over the rights of the minority. Sure, some of the things the ACLU stands for make them hard to love sometimes, but they do a lot of good protecting me from people like you -- a religious person (probably a Christian) who, despite being the majority in this country, actually thinks she is being persecuted.

Answer 8

Join and back ACLJ instead. They are fighting for our moral and religious rights against ACLU all the way.

Answer 9

Depends... if it's expression of religion in schools I agree with them. I believe religion should be saved for Church functions and home only.

Answer 10

I wouldn't have a problem with my tax dollars being used to wipe the aclu from the face of the earth.

What a worthless bunch of idjits.