liberals, question for you?

Question

Do you honestly think that the Iraqi people should not be able to choose a government for themselves?

Note: Saddam was not chosen. He forced his way to power.

and for those of you that say, "they never asked for help". Do you honestly think that they didn't want to be free?

Answer 1

I'm sure that the familes of the 130,000 civilians killed in the last few years in Iraq are just thrilled with their new found liberties.

Freedom without security doesn't make much sense, as we're seeing right now in Iraq.

Of course the Iraqi people should be able to choose a government for themselves, but wrecking the one they had without replacing it with a strong enough force to maintain civil order is clearly, without argument, a mistake. Don't you think?

Answer 2

The Iraqi people would not have been able to choose a leader. It is great that they were able to vote, but at what cost?

I agree that Sadaam was not democratically elected, but I also agree with estimates that we have not been successful in creating a representative democracy in Iraq.

I believe that if W would have worked on a plan contingent with the world or at least more resources that utilized the resources in Iraq instead of dismissing them a lot of Iraqis would have work and would have the need to join an insergency.

They want to be free and are entitled to be free, no one will argue against that. The problem is the method the Bush Admin used was rushed, coersive, and crass to the infrastructure in Iraq. It actually served as a catylist to promote insergency.

Answer 3

The problem with your question is that you start from a false assumption that liberals don't think Iraqis should choose their own government. I challenge you to find one quote from a liberal that we don't want the Iraqis to choose their own government.

You operate under the mentality that if someone would like to accomplish something in a different manner than you then they are totally wrong and must not believe the same things you do. The principle of the matter is that Iraqis should have self determination. But that is not the central issue. Once we invaded Iraq, we knew that they would choose their own government.

The real question is whether or not the reasons that we used to invade Iraq were valid enough to attack. That appears to be in doubt.

Personally, I have no problem invading Iraq for its blatant disregard of UN resolutions and for its past actions which were heinous and could be construed as a threat to us. I don't think that Iraq had an active WMD program, but that's not an issue that would have kept me from invading. Just don't lie and use that as your primary reason for invading.

Answer 4

If they do then they have a strange way of showing it. Why are they slaughtering each other? There's absolute chaos in that country.
Why is bringing democracy to Iraq our responsibility? At what cost? Is it also our responsibility to bring democracy to the rest of the world or is it just the countries with oil?
Do you realize that the initial reason given for invading Iraq was because of WMD's, then a link between Saddam and the Taliban?
Now, apparently it's to bring democracy to Iraq.
My brother was in Iraq for a year as a civilian contractor and told me that the Iraqi people that he worked with wanted democracy but didn't want to fight for it as it was the "Americans job" as they were responsible for the mess.

Answer 5

This is a rhetorical question, right, since you obviously aren't interested in a discussion about Iraqi politics. Here's a rhetorical question for you: do you think many Iraqi's are feeling free right now? Many are feeling free to go around torturing and murdering their countrymen. By the dozens, every day. I'm sure the Iraqi's are desperate for help. Is that what we're giving them? I honestly wonder.

Answer 6

Let's go back to the days after 9/11 and remember how this whole Iraq debacle started. As I recall, we were supposed to go into Afghanistan and take care of Osama Bin Laden. That went well, didn't it? He's still at large and thousands of American troops are dying because the Bush dynasty seems to be obsessed with Iraq. What a mess.

Answer 7

Democracy and freedom is very costly. You (as a nation) have to defend yourself from those who wish to take it away from you.

If something like democracy and freedom is handed to you for free, you will not cherish and protect it. You will lose it. Freedom and democracy has to be fought for by the people who want it.

Bush only came up with the idea of giving the iraqi people freedom from opression when he realized there really were no weapons of mass destruction.

Bush is an idiot, he invaded the wrong country. republicans should be punished for this by voting them out.

Answer 8

That's a false choice. They are now going to break into 3 or more factions and blow each other to hell. Do you think they asked for that?

I think they should be able to choose, when they can do it on their own. Have you seen Haiti lately? They had democracy imposed from the outside and had a coup every 10 years or so.

Why aren't we helping the N. Koreans to choose their leader? The Chinese? What are we waiting for?

Answer 9

Since when has it become the philosophy of the United States to invade non-democratic countries and force democracy on them? Using your logic, we must next invade China. Surely they want to be free.

Answer 10

If the US government truely wants them to be free then leave and let them decide what they want. Of course that won't happen since the US government only wants them to be free, under US control.