Do you agree with this quotation?

Question

'The struggles of all humanity - for freedom, for justice, for survival - are but the struggles of one species in the affairs of nature; they matter no more than did the struggles of the thylacine, or the qagar, or the dodo, in human affairs.'

Answer 1

that would be true if everything was in truth finite - then humans would be finite ie infinitely little in the infinite scheme

but finity is only apparent, not real

infinity is real

eg, electrons can orbit at great speed for infinite time - ie they have infinite energy

in fact everything is infinite - the actual [visible, physical] is not all the real - there is potential also, ie energy - human potential is infinite - out of nowhere comes the idea of the combustion engine, and out of the idea comes billions of cars, trucks, planes, trains, etc - this is new creation, creation from nothing

clearly there is something that is so powerful that it can make zillions of living things, can make nebulae and billions of stars and make empty space to put them in - and this is fully present in every point of space, in every thing, in every atom, in every body, in every human

the purpose of life is finding the infinite in the apparently finite world - what exists is just what we have made so far - there is an infinity of creation ahead of us - like an artist who has future artworks inside her/him

no book 'war and peace' - then, poof! - by magic, 'war and peace' starts to exist

infinite potential [energy] is continuously putting forward actuals [matter, things, bodies, finities, creations] - the finities can only last a finite time - but creation of finities goes on forever - like a fountain, the drops fall into the water and are lost, but the fountain of drops goes on forever

nonexistence cannot exist - by definition - it is all existence - forever - infinite potential pouring out an infinite number of finite creations - joy, energy, life, creativity

and each of us actually inhabits all bodies - we are all of us, each of us, existence itself, which is everything - potential and actual, infinite and finite, creativity and creations

we appear to be 'but one species' - we appear to be specific, limited in time [as individuals and as a species] - but we are not merely what we seem to be from looking outside, from seeing with the senses and the mind, which see only finite bodies -

'there are universes inside every atom'

potential or infinity does not obey any of the rules of bodies or finities - it doesnt have to obey the rule that it can only be in one place per time - it can be wholely present in multiple places, and yet be only one, not many

like an idea - whole in you and whole in me, and yet one idea, not two specimens of one idea

since all of our experience is of finity, it is hard for us [and our ideas] to have correct ideas about infinity - we keep putting finity concepts into infinity science - like thinking infinity is superlarge - whereas infinity is sizeless

i dont know if i can put this into words, but the idea you present is actually selfcontradictory - it involves imagining oneself outside humanity, thinking about humanity as an object, and therefore able to think of humanity as finite and therefore as posssibly nonexistent - the finity of humans [the present form of humanity] is limited, and you can get outside it, and that form can disappear forever - and it will, it must, for it is finite - but humanity and the present human body [and mind] are two different things

we have the infinite potential to pull out of nowhere not only [an infinite number of] new [finite] ideas but an infinite number of new minds, new awarenesses - there is nothing but existence, and we are it, and existence clearly is able to make universes, consciousnesses, life

the instant we decide that war is not good [exciting, dramatic, gripping], war will stop existing - the instant we prefer order and peace to insanity and mess, order and peace will exist

we think we think that war is terrible, and death is bad, but our cavilier attitude to bullets and bombs, our great love affair with weapons and explosions and guns and danger and horror and action and fear and grim things and so on, shows that we more than half know we are infinite, perfectly safe - the other animals, conscious only of their finity, hold on to life and happiness with every effort - but humans are different, gay destroyers because they are more than half conscious of being infinite creators - humans are insincere when it comes to pursuit of happiness and survival, goodness and peace - our souls thrive on explosions and bullets and danger and death -

humans live between infinity and finity, immortality and mortality, reality and illusion, power and powerlessness, deliberately deceiving ourselves that finity exists in order to enjoy the show

the fact we can enter a movie theatre and get 'caught up in' the story, shows we are able to decieve ourselves of the reality of unreality

there is just no other way to explain our perfect equanimity in the face of war growing for millenia and the coming destruction of all earth life by nuclear winter - to explain why we race to see films of war and death and danger - animals hightail it out of there as soon as they get the idea there is danger, birds fly off as soon as they hear a gunshot, but humans will stress themselves to bodily and mental destruction on battlefields for years

your quote is very untrue to the facts, imo

Answer 2

I guess I agree.

;;..we all feel, whether animal or human that our struggles are worst... at least wolves, big cats, only kill for survival...what is our excuse? ...and the vegetarian dodo just wasn't given any defense for a world carnivore predators.

Answer 3

When assuming the role of dispassionate observer (or as close as I can get to that) I do agree. Naturally, my human arrogance drives me to want "my" issues to be of greater import, but in fact, they are not…

Answer 4

its true in the sense that those animals will not/ did not care about what humans do to them it will not matter in the slightest unless it comes to war (in which case they will only care if they are endangered)

Answer 5

yes

Answer 6

no do u